Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

[VinylGuy]

yeah, this dudes are playing in a great venue this november here !! Finally, i really wanted to see Jimmy live.

[VinylGuy]

new album out august 2nd!! and its only 45 minutes long!!

guys we might have a winner here

[Ello Sailor]

I will love it regardless. Which is why you cannot rely on my review of anything, ever.

[Kevin Davis]

I haven't listened seriously to any reunion-era Pumpkins except for Zeitgeist and the acoustic EP that followed it. I know Zeitgeist isn't a beloved album but I actually liked it a lot, and played it a ton during the summer of 2007. Any suggestions for where to start on the stuff that's come since? I feel like I could use a little new Pumpkins in my life.

[Ello Sailor]

Oh boy. Well I'll give you my two favorite songs. The albums are very patchy.

I loved this song immediately, but I loved it even more after hearing Billy explain that it was essentially his take on a sea shanty. One-two-three, one-two-three. Very fucking cool. He has said that he "didn't completely nail" this song, and I would have to assume he's alluding to the bridge. It's not bad, it's just not as incredible as the rest. Still, one of the best post-2000 SP tunes.



This is a song that appears to be confused sonically, but gets by on the beauty of the arrangement. And Billy's lyrics are some of the best he's written since Mellon Collie. Seriously, this destroyed me on first listen. It's so beautiful.

Should I hope to be the light you'd deny
Could I scratch the paint
To where you must shine

Also, I love Katie Cole, so her backing vocals are a very welcome addition.



I cannot recommend a full album, but I might compile a playlist.

[oasisfan35]

I haven't listened seriously to any reunion-era Pumpkins except for Zeitgeist and the acoustic EP that followed it. I know Zeitgeist isn't a beloved album but I actually liked it a lot, and played it a ton during the summer of 2007. Any suggestions for where to start on the stuff that's come since? I feel like I could use a little new Pumpkins in my life.

Funny, Zeitgeist is the last album I have of theirs in either lossless or lossy formats. I saw two shows that tour as well Boston, which was fantastic and Uncasville, which was atrocious.

Five (soon to be six) albums and three EPs since then it seems, looks like I have some listening to do.

[VinylGuy]

well, i love Zeitgeist a lot. After that i come and go with different stuff, sometimes i come back to a certain song and i love it and that goes on.

I do like a lot most of the stuff from Atum, a lot from Cyr and Shiny and singles like GLOW or Superchrist or Gossamer.

I cant listen to Oceania these days. Its the only one i dont really care to listen, but i know thats going to change because it always does.

[Chris_H_2]

I will love it regardless. Which is why you cannot rely on my review of anything, ever.

sounds like joe and his reaction to anything st. vincent.

[VinylGuy]

got tickets for SP here in november!



Cant wait. I really wanna see Jimmy and James.

[Ello Sailor]

I will love it regardless. Which is why you cannot rely on my review of anything, ever.

sounds like joe and his reaction to anything st. vincent.

Oh, I have way better taste than Joe. Let's not get crazy.

[Ello Sailor]

got tickets for SP here in november!



Cant wait. I really wanna see Jimmy and James.

Hell yeah, brother.

[Kevin Davis]

Thanks for those recommendations, Ello — I liked them both quite a bit. When you said sea shanty I was expecting something folky; I liked that it was something kind of metallic and synthy-sounding, just with that 1-2-3 rhythm. And the other one is lovely. Billy’s voice just takes me somewhere else — instant salve.

But is it wrong to say that in recent-ish years the SP songbook has experienced a proliferation of songs that sound like they were named after RPG characters?

[Ello Sailor]

But is it wrong to say that in recent-ish years the SP songbook has experienced a proliferation of songs that sound like they were named after RPG characters?

It's really gotten out of hand, but let's not forget our girls Tristessa and Starla.

[Ello Sailor]

Oh, you weren't kidding. Just saw the new album title. Aghori Mhori Mei. What in the Skyrim is going on?

[VinylGuy]

Yeah the song titles are worst but ey, 45 minutes ! A straight rock album ! Could be cool

[AndySlash]

well, this is a genuinely surprising listen. seems there's still a little bit of that old smashing pumpkins left in these guys.

[VinylGuy]

Oh it leaked !!

[VinylGuy]

Listening right now

First song kids sounds like Jane’s Addiction

[VinylGuy]

Second song was boring very sub par Corgan

Mmm this might be a better mixed Monuments

[VinylGuy]

War Dreams Of Itself brings some very interesting guitar work back yeah.