Carl Sandburg wrote:There is a wolf in me . . . fangs pointed for tearing gashes . . . a red tongue for raw meat . . . and the hot lapping of blood—I keep this wolf because the wilderness gave it to me and the wilderness will not let it go.
There is a fox in me . . . a silver-gray fox . . . I sniff and guess . . . I pick things out of the wind and air . . . I nose in the dark night and take sleepers and eat them and hide the feathers . . . I circle and loop and double-cross.
There is a hog in me . . . a snout and a belly . . . a machinery for eating and grunting . . . a machinery for sleeping satisfied in the sun—I got this too from the wilderness and the wilderness will not let it go.
There is a fish in me . . . I know I came from salt-blue water-gates . . . I scurried with shoals of herring . . . I blew waterspouts with porpoises . . . before land was . . . before the water went down . . . before Noah . . . before the first chapter of Genesis.
There is a baboon in me . . . clambering-clawed . . . dog-faced . . . yawping a galoot's hunger . . . hairy under the armpits . . . here are the hawk-eyed hankering men . . . here are the blonde and blue-eyed women . . . here they hide curled asleep waiting . . . ready to snarl and kill . . . ready to sing and give milk . . . waiting—I keep the baboon because the wilderness says so.
There is an eagle in me and a mockingbird . . . and the eagle flies among the Rocky Mountains of my dreams and fights among the Sierra crags of what I want . . . and the mockingbird warbles in the early forenoon before the dew is gone, warbles in the underbrush of my Chattanoogas of hope, gushes over the blue Ozark foothills of my wishes—And I got the eagle and the mockingbird from the wilderness.
O, I got a zoo, I got a menagerie, inside my ribs, under my bony head, under my red-valve heart—and I got something else: it is a man-child heart, a woman-child heart: it is a father and mother and lover: it came from God-Knows-Where: it is going to God-Knows-Where—For I am the keeper of the zoo: I say yes and no: I sing and kill and work: I am a pal of the world: I came from the wilderness.
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do people actually play knifey-spooney there
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I have never considered eggs in the aisle as an unusual thing. I refrigerate them when I get them home, but never had any thought that I should be buying them cold.
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We've always had eggs in the aisle here. Nothing strange about that. I just checked online and it says that you can keep them either in room temperature or refrigerator, but the optimal temperature for eggs is 10-14C (50-57F).
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I think America may actually be the minority by always refrigerating eggs.
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Back in the Piggly Wiggly days, when we would receive our eggs, they were never refrigerated. We stored them in the stockroom with all the other grocery items. They weren’t cold until they were stocked in the cooler out in the store.
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Yeah we like to buy farm fresh eggs here and the people we buy them from never have them refrigerated.
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My grocery keeps them in the freezer (???)
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That doesn’t even sound like it’s something that should be done.bodysnatcher wrote:My grocery keeps them in the freezer (???)
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this is the answer. pasteurized eggs have the protective membrane swept off, and therefore they need to be refrigerated.tragabigzanda wrote:I wonder if they’re not cleaned, e.g. are they from a small local farm? You generally don’t have to refrigerate eggs until they’re cleaned.
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Yeah it seems that they do this to the eggs in the US but not in Europe (and apparently not in Australia either). Thanks H_2!Chris_H_2 wrote:this is the answer. pasteurized eggs have the protective membrane swept off, and therefore they need to be refrigerated.tragabigzanda wrote:I wonder if they’re not cleaned, e.g. are they from a small local farm? You generally don’t have to refrigerate eggs until they’re cleaned.
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PM him your address and he will send you a pope can openercontamination wrote:Yeah it seems that they do this to the eggs in the US but not in Europe (and apparently not in Australia either). Thanks H_2!Chris_H_2 wrote:this is the answer. pasteurized eggs have the protective membrane swept off, and therefore they need to be refrigerated.tragabigzanda wrote:I wonder if they’re not cleaned, e.g. are they from a small local farm? You generally don’t have to refrigerate eggs until they’re cleaned.
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*popenerdoug rr wrote:PM him your address and he will send you a pope can openercontamination wrote:Yeah it seems that they do this to the eggs in the US but not in Europe (and apparently not in Australia either). Thanks H_2!Chris_H_2 wrote:this is the answer. pasteurized eggs have the protective membrane swept off, and therefore they need to be refrigerated.tragabigzanda wrote:I wonder if they’re not cleaned, e.g. are they from a small local farm? You generally don’t have to refrigerate eggs until they’re cleaned.
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In Aus, Coles and Aldi have their eggs on the shelf, Woolworth’s and IGA have them refrigerated.
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My local Iga doesn't refrigerate eggs. I don't know that I've ever seen refrigerated eggs tbh. Might be a WA thing though...spike wrote:In Aus, Coles and Aldi have their eggs on the shelf, Woolworth’s and IGA have them refrigerated.
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found out this afternoon that our shipping container cleared customs/quarantine after only a few days - we expected a few weeks. delivery of all our stuff is scheduled for october 4th, as that's earliest the handlers could do. works out well enough as the wife will be abroad til the 28th starting tomorrow (thought i think she secretly hoped it could all be dropped off while she's gone so she wouldn't have to deal with it lol).
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Wife will be abroad? Isn’t that why you moved to Australia in the first place?
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No.wease wrote:Wife will be abroad? Isn’t that why you moved to Australia in the first place?
It’s been less work travel overall, but this is an annual meetup of the region and it’s in South Africa this year. Potentially in Australia next year, it rotates.
Then we always knew she’d have to go to global HQ in Paris a few times, but she was doing that already.