The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread

[lennytheweedwhacker]

My question is, how does wease still not know the proper procedure for firing someone? He's done it a thousand times by now

He knows. He also knew HR wouldn’t like it. But sometimes you just gotta do what’s best for the center and let HR sort it out later.

At any company I’ve worked for, minus the last, you’d be in trouble. What’s also best for the center is avoiding lawsuits. And low turnover

[lennytheweedwhacker]

Now HR is mad at me for firing her. Basically, they don’t like when we fire someone without going thru them.

Rightfully so.

Why? Let’s see if your answer jibes with theirs.

The main across the board reason is to ensure there are no legal considerations or keep the company from being liable in possible discriminatory practices. There can be industry, company, state/federal law requirements (ie timing of last paycheck) involved as well.

So what do you do - tell the employee they’re gone then tell HR? Hopefully immediately…

Yep. That’s exactly what I did. As for last paycheck, this will be her only paycheck from us.

I was just saying that as a potential reason why employers may require advance notification. Either way, the way your company functions is not advisable

[tragabigzanda]

There is a wolf in me . . . fangs pointed for tearing gashes . . . a red tongue for raw meat . . . and the hot lapping of blood—I keep this wolf because the wilderness gave it to me and the wilderness will not let it go.

There is a fox in me . . . a silver-gray fox . . . I sniff and guess . . . I pick things out of the wind and air . . . I nose in the dark night and take sleepers and eat them and hide the feathers . . . I circle and loop and double-cross.

There is a hog in me . . . a snout and a belly . . . a machinery for eating and grunting . . . a machinery for sleeping satisfied in the sun—I got this too from the wilderness and the wilderness will not let it go.

There is a fish in me . . . I know I came from salt-blue water-gates . . . I scurried with shoals of herring . . . I blew waterspouts with porpoises . . . before land was . . . before the water went down . . . before Noah . . . before the first chapter of Genesis.

There is a baboon in me . . . clambering-clawed . . . dog-faced . . . yawping a galoot's hunger . . . hairy under the armpits . . . here are the hawk-eyed hankering men . . . here are the blonde and blue-eyed women . . . here they hide curled asleep waiting . . . ready to snarl and kill . . . ready to sing and give milk . . . waiting—I keep the baboon because the wilderness says so.

There is an eagle in me and a mockingbird . . . and the eagle flies among the Rocky Mountains of my dreams and fights among the Sierra crags of what I want . . . and the mockingbird warbles in the early forenoon before the dew is gone, warbles in the underbrush of my Chattanoogas of hope, gushes over the blue Ozark foothills of my wishes—And I got the eagle and the mockingbird from the wilderness.

O, I got a zoo, I got a menagerie, inside my ribs, under my bony head, under my red-valve heart—and I got something else: it is a man-child heart, a woman-child heart: it is a father and mother and lover: it came from God-Knows-Where: it is going to God-Knows-Where—For I am the keeper of the zoo: I say yes and no: I sing and kill and work: I am a pal of the world: I came from the wilderness.

[lennytheweedwhacker]

Lenny I’m worried you’re using your best dating material here on RM

I don’t know what any of those words mean

[pepperwhiteMFC]

Lenny I’m worried you’re using your best dating material here on RM

I don’t know what any of those words mean

This is going to be my response to those gibberish emails.

[lennytheweedwhacker]

Lenny I’m worried you’re using your best dating material here on RM

I don’t know what any of those words mean

This is going to be my response to those gibberish emails.

You can, but you’ll be fired on the spot.

[spike]

My question is, how does wease still not know the proper procedure for firing someone? He's done it a thousand times by now

He knows. He also knew HR wouldn’t like it. But sometimes you just gotta do what’s best for the center and let HR sort it out later.

At any company I’ve worked for, minus the last, you’d be in trouble. What’s also best for the center is avoiding lawsuits. And low turnover

a reminder, folks, that HR's priority is always to protect the company, not its employees, as HRs like to make their employees believe.

[lennytheweedwhacker]

My question is, how does wease still not know the proper procedure for firing someone? He's done it a thousand times by now

He knows. He also knew HR wouldn’t like it. But sometimes you just gotta do what’s best for the center and let HR sort it out later.

At any company I’ve worked for, minus the last, you’d be in trouble. What’s also best for the center is avoiding lawsuits. And low turnover

a reminder, folks, that HR's priority is always to protect the company, not its employees, as HRs like to make their employees believe.

A wrongful termination situation would be protecting the employee as well, holmes

[wease]

My question is, how does wease still not know the proper procedure for firing someone? He's done it a thousand times by now

He knows. He also knew HR wouldn’t like it. But sometimes you just gotta do what’s best for the center and let HR sort it out later.

At any company I’ve worked for, minus the last, you’d be in trouble. What’s also best for the center is avoiding lawsuits. And low turnover

a reminder, folks, that HR's priority is always to protect the company, not its employees, as HRs like to make their employees believe.

A wrongful termination situation would be protecting the employee as well, holmes

Wrongful termination? The girl, quite literally, only showed up for the first of 6 shifts. Nothing wrongful about this termination.

[The Argonaut]

But they want to be sure of it, wease. They're the experts. You are not god!

[lennytheweedwhacker]

wease I don’t know why you don’t understand I’m not speaking directly to this isolated, individual situation.

Also to note, something not many managers realize is an employee can sue them personally.

[lennytheweedwhacker]

But they want to be sure of it, wease. They're the experts. You are not god!

Thank you for your love and support.

[The Argonaut]

Why did you get so rageful that you just needed to fire that person right then and there, proper procedure be damned? Now you're on the hook for whatever happens down the line. Control your emotions, wease

[wease]

wease I don’t know why you don’t understand I’m not speaking directly to this isolated, individual situation.

Also to note, something not many managers realize is an employee can sue them personally.

Gotcha

[wease]

Why did you get so rageful that you just needed to fire that person right then and there, proper procedure be damned? Now you're on the hook for whatever happens down the line. Control your emotions, wease

I’m in total control. No rage. Just fixed the issue before it got worse. I was totally within my jurisdiction to terminate her and I wasn’t waiting until a day HR was in office to do it. That would’ve been to the detriment to the center.

[The Argonaut]

Wease, you're gonna get sued. Hire a lawyer now

[Jorge]

Let me guess, she was also pregnant and black and developmentally disabled

[dad]

who the fuck misses six out of ten of their first days and expects to still have a job?

[The Argonaut]

The issue is not whether or not she should be fired. The issue is why wease felt the need to fire this person against procedure, without going to HR first.

And I'll tell you why.

It's because wease wants to feel like a big man.

He doesn't want to get permission, he wants to feel like he is in charge. Wease doesn't want to ask permission to fire a woman. That's his right as a big man. Middle management with an ego, very dangerous. For his employees and for his employer.

Check yourself, wease!

[E.H. Ruddock]

you are out of line, argo