Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

[Hypnos]

When I became a fan of PJ, I was surprised by the amount of material outside of the official albums: b-sides, singles, bootlegs, etc. It was a big part of the appeal. After Avocado, it seems that they completely set aside that part of their identity and became secretive about their unreleased material. They even stopped releasing their Christmas singles, and it's been 20 years since Lost Dogs.

Is there any official explanation?

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[Monkey_Driven]

They don't write and record as much material anymore.

[96583UP]

i think they prob had a combination of:

- Less finished-grade b-side product available

- More reluctance to share near-finished songs bc the lead time between albums extended and they wanted to keep songs available for future use

- Pearl Jam started to suck

[spike]

[epilogue]

There's also the fact if the digital/streaming age.

[B]

There's also the fact if the digital/streaming age.

Well, they don't release them that way either.

[B]

They release more stuff as solo albums and collaborations with other artists.

The only solo album we had pre-Lost Dogs was Bayleaf, and that was only 2 years prior to Lost Dogs.

Since then, we've had 3 Vedder solos, a Cameron solo, 3? Ament solos, a Gossard solo, a few McCready movie scores, and a smattering of EPs and such.
All that music would have been sitting on the Pearl Jam floor as cut material prior to the PRAMG era.

[VinylGuy]

yeah, they explained something around Backspacer came out, that they were mostly trying to release everything they had in the album. Which is always a lie of course.

[spike]

they all had kids

leading to PRAMG

leading to solo albums

leading to seven year album cycles

leading to stadium tours

culminating with the band playing glorified g live on stern

[B]

Ed hates playing that song because it's about guns.

[epilogue]

There's also the fact if the digital/streaming age.

Well, they don't release them that way either.

Exactly my point.

[spike]

Ed hates playing that song because it's about guns.

but he'll do it for a famous guy

[stip]

yea but he will make him beg for it

[Chris_H_2]

Ed hates playing that song because it's about guns.

think we'll ever hear rival again if it's not the favorite song of someone like sean penn?

[B]

Comes Then Goes isn't about guns, is it?

[E.H. Ruddock]

No, it is about not cuddling after a hookup

[Chris_H_2]

ruddo

[E.H. Ruddock]

ruddo

you know you at least smiled when you read that

[Monkey_Driven]

ruddo

you know you at least smiled when you read that

"genius"