Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

[Matters]

You don’t want the physical equivalent of Haley Joel Osment as President. The world’s already laughing at America enough.

Walker told me I have AIDS.

[B]

yeah it's hard to understand why criticizing corporate media and the vice president of the current administration has an impact.

The criticism has to make sense.

"Harris can't be President because Lincoln is on the penny."

The caliber of lies from Rs and Ds are not the same.

I don't know what statement Vance was checked on Tuesday, but he said Trump saved ACA despite supporting 40 bills to appeal it, suing to eliminate it, and defending the marketplace.

Walz said he was in China in April 1989 despite being there in JUNE of 1989.

After the debate only one candidate kept the lie going. Only one party jumped on the bandwagon to amplify it. Only one party complained that they couldn't lie with impunity.

[Bi_3]

yeah it's hard to understand why criticizing corporate media and the vice president of the current administration has an impact.

The criticism has to make sense.

"Harris can't be President because Lincoln is on the penny."

The caliber of lies from Rs and Ds are not the same.

I don't know what statement Vance was checked on Tuesday, but he said Trump saved ACA despite supporting 40 bills to appeal it, suing to eliminate it, and defending the marketplace.

Walz said he was in China in April 1989 despite being there in JUNE of 1989.

After the debate only one candidate kept the lie going. Only one party jumped on the bandwagon to amplify it. Only one party complained that they couldn't lie with impunity.

The point is that automatic deference to the act of “fact checking” vs the result of checking the validity of a statement creates a loophole for messaging that someone is a liar with out actually having to prove it.

[Peeps]

yeah it's hard to understand why criticizing corporate media and the vice president of the current administration has an impact.

The criticism has to make sense.

"Harris can't be President because Lincoln is on the penny."

The caliber of lies from Rs and Ds are not the same.

I don't know what statement Vance was checked on Tuesday, but he said Trump saved ACA despite supporting 40 bills to appeal it, suing to eliminate it, and defending the marketplace.

Walz said he was in China in April 1989 despite being there in JUNE of 1989.

After the debate only one candidate kept the lie going. Only one party jumped on the bandwagon to amplify it. Only one party complained that they couldn't lie with impunity.

The point is that automatic deference to the act of “fact checking” vs the result of checking the validity of a statement creates a loophole for messaging that someone is a liar with out actually having to prove it.

vance: there are hundreds of reports of illegal immigrants eating cats
moderators: actually the sheriffs pointed out there have been no reports of that happening and it was due to a lady whos cat ran away later to be found in her basement also the hatians you are calling illegal in fact came here and got a special status as immigrant and therefore are not illegal
Vance: grabs pearls with an audible gasp "how dare you fact check me"

[Bi_3]

yeah it's hard to understand why criticizing corporate media and the vice president of the current administration has an impact.

The criticism has to make sense.

"Harris can't be President because Lincoln is on the penny."

The caliber of lies from Rs and Ds are not the same.

I don't know what statement Vance was checked on Tuesday, but he said Trump saved ACA despite supporting 40 bills to appeal it, suing to eliminate it, and defending the marketplace.

Walz said he was in China in April 1989 despite being there in JUNE of 1989.

After the debate only one candidate kept the lie going. Only one party jumped on the bandwagon to amplify it. Only one party complained that they couldn't lie with impunity.

The point is that automatic deference to the act of “fact checking” vs the result of checking the validity of a statement creates a loophole for messaging that someone is a liar with out actually having to prove it.

vance: there are hundreds of reports of illegal immigrants eating cats
moderators: actually the sheriffs pointed out there have been no reports of that happening and it was due to a lady whos cat ran away later to be found in her basement also the hatians you are calling illegal in fact came here and got a special status as immigrant and therefore are not illegal
Vance: grabs pearls with an audible gasp "how dare you fact check me"

Did this happen in the debate? I only caught the end.

[4/5]

Here's the transcript of the exchange, most relevant parts bolded:

MB: Do you disagree that Congress controls the purse strings and would need to support many of the changes that you would actually want to implement? You have 1 minute.

JDV: Look, Margaret, first of all, the gross majority of what we need to do at the southern border is just empowering law enforcement to do their job. I've been to the southern border more than our Borders are, Kamala Harris has been. And it's actually heartbreaking because the Border Patrol Agents, they just want to be empowered to do their job. Of course, additional resources would help. But most of this is about the President and the Vice President empowering our law enforcement to say, "If you try to come across the border illegally, you've got to stay in Mexico, you've got to go back through proper channels." Now, Governor Walz brought up the community of Springfield, and he's very worried about the things that I've said in Springfield. Look, in Springfield, Ohio and in communities all across this country, you've got schools that are overwhelmed, you've got hospitals that are overwhelmed, you have got housing that is totally unaffordable because we brought in millions of illegal immigrants to compete with Americans for scarce homes. The people that I'm most worried about in Springfield, Ohio, are the American citizens who have had their lives destroyed by Kamala Harris's open border. It is a disgrace, Tim. And I actually think, I agree with you. I think you want to solve this problem, but I don't think that Kamala Harris does.

MB: Senator, your time is up. Governor, you have 1 minute to respond.

TW: Yeah, well, it is law enforcement that asked for the bill. They helped craft it. They're the ones that supported it. It was… that's because they know we need to do this. Look, this issue of continuing to bring this up, of not dealing with it, of blaming migrants for everything. On housing, we could talk a little bit about Wall Street speculators buying up housing and making them less affordable, but it becomes a blame. Look, this bill also gives the money necessary to adjudicate. I agree. It should not take seven years for an asylum claim to be done. This bill gets it done in 90 days. Then you start to make a difference in this and you start to adhere to what we know. American principles. I don't talk about my faith a lot, but Matthew 25:40 talks about, "To the least amongst us, you do unto me." I think that's true of most Americans. They simply want order to it. This bill does it. It's funded, it's supported by the people who do it, and it lets us keep our dignity about how we treat other people.

MB: Thank you, Governor. And just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio does have a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status. Temporary protected status. Norah.

JDV: Well, Margaret, Margaret, I think it's important because…

MB: Thank you, senator. We have so much to get to.

NO: We're going to turn out of the economy. Thank you.

JDV: Margaret. The rules were that you guys weren't going to fact check, and since you're fact checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on. So there's an application called the CBP One app where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand. That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card and waiting for ten years.

MB: Thank you, Senator.

JDV: That is the facilitation of illegal immigration, Margaret, by our own leadership. And Kamala Harris opened up that pathway.

MB: Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process. We have so much to get to.

TW: Those laws have been in the book since 1990.

MB: Thank you, gentlemen. We want to have -

TW: The CBP app has not been on the books since 1990. It's something that Kamala Harris created, Margaret.

MB: Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut. We have so much we want to get to. Thank you for explaining the legal process. Norah?

[wease]

yeah it's hard to understand why criticizing corporate media and the vice president of the current administration has an impact.

The criticism has to make sense.

"Harris can't be President because Lincoln is on the penny."

The caliber of lies from Rs and Ds are not the same.

I don't know what statement Vance was checked on Tuesday, but he said Trump saved ACA despite supporting 40 bills to appeal it, suing to eliminate it, and defending the marketplace.

Walz said he was in China in April 1989 despite being there in JUNE of 1989.

After the debate only one candidate kept the lie going. Only one party jumped on the bandwagon to amplify it. Only one party complained that they couldn't lie with impunity.

The point is that automatic deference to the act of “fact checking” vs the result of checking the validity of a statement creates a loophole for messaging that someone is a liar with out actually having to prove it.

vance: there are hundreds of reports of illegal immigrants eating cats
moderators: actually the sheriffs pointed out there have been no reports of that happening and it was due to a lady whos cat ran away later to be found in her basement also the hatians you are calling illegal in fact came here and got a special status as immigrant and therefore are not illegal
Vance: grabs pearls with an audible gasp "how dare you fact check me"

Did this happen in the debate? I only caught the end.

It was more like the Chevy Chase SNL bit, “I was told there would be no math.”

[BurtReynolds]

Fact check: that was a lie.

[dimejinky99]

cos thats totally the same thing! hahahahaaa

[Strat]

No way he said that with a straight face.

Actually, that guy, yea probably did.

[BurtReynolds]

Hogan's persona is slightly more believable than Springsteen's blue collar schtick.

[tragabigzanda]

FUCK ICE

[tommy]

Hulk Hogan is America

[96583UP]

You don’t want the physical equivalent of Haley Joel Osment as President. The world’s already laughing at America enough.

Walker told me I have AIDS.

no, that was me

[Bi_3]

No way he said that with a straight face.

Actually, that guy, yea probably did.

[96583UP]

if you came from the future and asked me in 2001 whether this was possible…

but later explained what it took to get here

it would be like Terminator judgement day scenario

[dimejinky99]

its in your nature to destroy yourselves

[oasisfan35]

its in your nature to destroy yourselves

Just want to make sure we're on the same page.

[Bi_3]

10/10

[tommy]

Conservatives really shouldn't try to be funny