The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Engage in discussions about news, politics, etc.
Locked
tommy
Rank This Poster
Posts: 4456
Joined: Sat August 05, 2023 11:13 pm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by tommy »

Also I'm not sure if Trump sexually assaulting a woman is an extraordinary claim
User avatar
dimejinky99
what on earth am I talking about
Posts: 39789
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by dimejinky99 »

tommy wrote:Also I'm not sure if Trump sexually assaulting a woman is an extraordinary claim

A very underage girl possibly not even 10 years old.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
User avatar
dimejinky99
what on earth am I talking about
Posts: 39789
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by dimejinky99 »

Bi_3 wrote:Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. It's honestly going to be difficult to believe such a thing suddenly emerges two weeks before the election and is not AI generated.

You get presented with horrifying ‘extraordinary’ footage of what Israel’s doing in Gaza all the time and you don’t believe that so little wonder youll doubt this, given your whole bit

Ps-AI has code in it easily seen and openly telling you it’s AI generated. Phone footage etc doesn’t. It’s a whole different other thing.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
User avatar
dimejinky99
what on earth am I talking about
Posts: 39789
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by dimejinky99 »

lol

The Brits. Again. Coming over to our country!

“in two weeks, Americans will again reject the oppression of big government that we rejected in 1776…The far-left Labour Party has inspired Kamala’s dangerously liberal policies and rhetoric.”
Calibrate your enthusiasm
User avatar
Bi_3
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 16452
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by Bi_3 »

dimejinky99 wrote:
Ps-AI has code in it easily seen and openly telling you it’s AI generated. Phone footage etc doesn’t. It’s a whole different other thing.
This is definitely not correct
"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
User avatar
dimejinky99
what on earth am I talking about
Posts: 39789
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by dimejinky99 »

Bi_3 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Ps-AI has code in it easily seen and openly telling you it’s AI generated. Phone footage etc doesn’t. It’s a whole different other thing.
This is definitely not correct

Enlighten us.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
User avatar
Strat
Waiting for HVAC Repairman
Posts: 35407
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:48 pm
Location: Twin City Kisses

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by Strat »

Is this like the pee pee tape?
User avatar
Rangi Guy
Mind Your Tanners
Posts: 9428
Joined: Fri March 22, 2013 7:20 pm
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MistorKitty
Location: 41.1716° S, 174.8248° E

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by Rangi Guy »

Strat wrote:Is this like the pee pee tape?
Sounds as if this has more chance of being released. But until it does - I'm approaching this with the same level of scepticism.
"I really enjoy sandwiches but the other guys are so good at making sandwiches that I don't make them. Now I make sandwiches."
User avatar
BurtReynolds
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Posts: 45825
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm
Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by BurtReynolds »

He's gonna be the only epstein client to ever be publicly identified by the government. It just so happens it's the only tape they could find.

Calling it now: pee tape + underage girl + shouting the N-word.
Last edited by BurtReynolds on Thu October 24, 2024 3:39 am, edited 1 time in total.
RM's resident disinformation expert.
User avatar
Biff Pocoroba
TIER 1 Essential Critical Infrastructure Worker
Posts: 4801
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 9:08 pm
Location: 5th floor, Bay 7, position 5740

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by Biff Pocoroba »

Fox’s Brian Kilmede’s explanation of how maybe Trump wasn’t “fully cognizant” that the German generals were Nazis is one of the most unintentionally hilarious things I’ve heard in a while :haha:
User avatar
Bi_3
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 16452
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by Bi_3 »

dimejinky99 wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Ps-AI has code in it easily seen and openly telling you it’s AI generated. Phone footage etc doesn’t. It’s a whole different other thing.
This is definitely not correct

Enlighten us.
Dime, there has been literally thousands of stories in the media recently, going back to when ChatGPT hit the mainstream (if not before), about how AI videos will create an uncontrollable disinformation environment. If it was a simple as you say to detect them, I encourage you to reach out to those reporters and researchers and let them know what you've found so the world doesn't fall victim to these hoaxes.


And you can just re-record an AI video using screen capture tools or with your phone camera, akin to how people used to take videos in movie theaters.
"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
User avatar
dimejinky99
what on earth am I talking about
Posts: 39789
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by dimejinky99 »

Bi_3 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Ps-AI has code in it easily seen and openly telling you it’s AI generated. Phone footage etc doesn’t. It’s a whole different other thing.
This is definitely not correct

Enlighten us.
Dime, there has been literally thousands of stories in the media recently, going back to when ChatGPT hit the mainstream (if not before), about how AI videos will create an uncontrollable disinformation environment. If it was a simple as you say to detect them, I encourage you to reach out to those reporters and researchers and let them know what you've found so the world doesn't fall victim to these hoaxes.


And you can just re-record an AI video using screen capture tools or with your phone camera, akin to how people used to take videos in movie theaters.


Oh dear
You’re saying even a moderately capable tech savvy journalist or investigator couldn’t figure out the difference in the code between genuine footage and ai generated.
You’re going for that as a defence of an alleged molestation of a child?
They faked it!

Do better.
Ps Just to your last bit, they never and still don’t use ai to clean up the footage filmed in cinemas. I wanna see gladiator II at home dammit. Hurry up cleaning it up it’s a blurry external noise mess right now on the streamers
Calibrate your enthusiasm
User avatar
Bi_3
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 16452
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by Bi_3 »

dimejinky99 wrote: You’re saying even a moderately capable tech savvy journalist or investigator couldn’t figure out the difference in the code between genuine footage and ai generated.
Yes.
"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
User avatar
BurtReynolds
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Posts: 45825
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm
Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by BurtReynolds »

It's a simple matter to remove AI metadata from images, but I don't think deepfakes are quite ready to be rolled out as a propaganda tool just yet. But who knows what they have behind the curtain.
RM's resident disinformation expert.
User avatar
Bi_3
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 16452
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by Bi_3 »

BurtReynolds wrote:It's a simple matter to remove AI metadata from images, but I don't think deepfakes are quite ready to be rolled out as a propaganda tool just yet. But who knows what they have behind the curtain.
You wouldn't need to deepfake the whole thing. Just transcode/dither existing video to make the source unique from detection by a frame-hashing tool, add artificial objects and layers to it, transcode/dither it a few more times, and then record it by holding a smart phone at the screen it's being played on so it looks like it was discretely filmed without the subject knowing. Similar to how 'analog horror' is made. Release it a day before the general election and people won't have time to analyze it. So if there is uncirculated video of Trump sitting next to a girl at an event, which there most certainly is because he acts like a pervert frequently, modifying that video to make it look like he gropes her would not be that difficult for motivated bad actors. TLDR: 'Caught in 4k' can be detected, 'caught in 240p' not so much.

But more importantly, people want to believe. Desperately. So even if there is some doubt, the damage will be done.
"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
User avatar
BurtReynolds
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Posts: 45825
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm
Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by BurtReynolds »

Once it can consistently create realistic hands, it's over.
RM's resident disinformation expert.
User avatar
Jorge
NYUCK NYUCK NYUCK
Posts: 36487
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:35 pm
Location: Buenos Aires

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by Jorge »

Biff Pocoroba wrote:Fox’s Brian Kilmede’s explanation of how maybe Trump wasn’t “fully cognizant” that the German generals were Nazis is one of the most unintentionally hilarious things I’ve heard in a while :haha:
That was funny but also... kind of plausible?!
Anders wrote:I do not have a «neoliberal assessment of geopolitics», so please stop writing that I do.
tommy
Rank This Poster
Posts: 4456
Joined: Sat August 05, 2023 11:13 pm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by tommy »

BurtReynolds wrote:Once it can consistently create realistic hands, it's over.

AI creating weird hands is actually a plus if it's making a Trump video
User avatar
B
Troglodyte
Posts: 24953
Joined: Wed December 19, 2012 9:53 pm
Twitter: https://bsky.app/profile/rectormsw.bsky.social
Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by B »

tommy wrote:Even if it's true it won't matter. Nobody cares for some reason.
:(
Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
User avatar
wease
Major Dude
Posts: 40170
Joined: Sat January 05, 2013 1:57 pm
Location: Where everybody knows your name

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Post by wease »

Jorge wrote:
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Fox’s Brian Kilmede’s explanation of how maybe Trump wasn’t “fully cognizant” that the German generals were Nazis is one of the most unintentionally hilarious things I’ve heard in a while :haha:
That was funny but also... kind of plausible?!
Not plausible that he doesn't realize they were Nazis. Completely plausible that he doesn’t understand they tried to kill Hitler multiple times.
Let me tell you, Homer Simpson is cock of nothing!
- C. Montgomery Burns
Locked