tommy wrote:Punching down is the purest form of comedy. You guys just hate free speech.
No he sucks.
There must be missing context there because from a comedian that is a truly depressing and cowardly take.
100% diagree
you want people to laugh or think when you tell a sly joke, you dont want their first reaction to be youre a fucking cunt
You dont want to hurt people on purpose (unless that is your shtick) or use "comedian" as some kind of get out of jail free card, but there is thin tightrope that artists walk between challenging the audience by pushing boundaries and expectations... and being an asshole. The idea that if you produce something that a large enough section of the audience rages at that makes you an asshole is simply wrong. That's exactly where self-censorship starts and art dies. Or worse, regression to the mean begins and all comedy starts to become The Big Bang Theory. I suspect right after that clip ends a better explanation is given in the conversation that clears things up, but it gives very "back in my day" vibes and maybe that is not what modern comedy audiences want. It's not like these specials are just randomly recorded and distributed. Someone vetted the act, determined it was worth the investment, and paid for it.
"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
It's just another smarmy, transparent gaslighting tactic from a guy who regularly intimidated and investigated comedians and artists who spoke out against him.
But not transparent enough for his cult of course.
I really don't get all the hubbub about this lot. Comedians tell jokes. Some are funny, some are not. Someone will always get offended. Move on, nothing to see here.
Higgs wrote:I really don't get all the hubbub about this lot. Comedians tell jokes. Some are funny, some are not. Someone will always get offended. Move on, nothing to see here.
The idea that they can tear down a rich, old, republican White man with a charge of racism and use that to elect the first female PoC president is just too good for them to pass on.
"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
Peeps wrote:trump is as much a republican as i am a starting point guard for the denver nuggets
Maybe true in 2015 but not true today. Unless you're Russ...wait, is Russ starting or coming off the bench?
Trump isn't more Republican. He has made Republicans less Republican.
This fool is right twice in one week. Sad!
You guys are talking as if what it means to be a Republican is a static, unchanging thing. He has remade the Republican party in his image. Most don't even pretend to have principles like supporting limited government, free trade, or fiscal responsibility anymore.
"I want to see the whole picture--as nearly as I can. I don't want to put on the blinders of 'good and bad,' and limit my vision."-- In Dubious Battle
Higgs wrote:I really don't get all the hubbub about this lot. Comedians tell jokes. Some are funny, some are not. Someone will always get offended. Move on, nothing to see here.
Sure, but does context matter at all? If he made these jokes in a comedy club somewhere, it wouldn’t be news. But at Madison Square Garden, a week before the election, as an opening act to the Republican candidate, knowing full well the giant NYC press apparatus is there to broadcast it to the world… I mean, you either want people to think this is what you believe, or you are horrendously bad a politics. Either way, this isn’t your typical offensive comic story, and they deserve the blowback.
