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E.H. Ruddock wrote:I ask again, what if the people of Greenland don't want to be a territory?


In 2008, Greenland's citizens approved the Greenlandic self-government referendum with a 75% vote in favor of a higher degree of autonomy. Greenland took control of law enforcement, the coast guard, and the legal system. The official language changed from Danish to Greenlandic on 21 June 2009, with the day being celebrated as Greenland national day. The act gives control of foreign relations of Greenland to the island in trade and other areas it is responsible for. Greenland has representatives in Copenhagen, Brussels, Reykjavik, and Washington, D.C.

As part of the self-rule law of 2009 (section §21), Greenland can declare full independence if they wish to pursue it, but it would have to be approved by a referendum among the Greenlandic people. A poll in 2016 showed that there was a clear majority (64%) for full independence among the Greenlandic people, but a poll in 2017 showed that there was a clear opposition (78%) if it meant a fall in living standards.
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BurtReynolds wrote:North American Union? No fucking thanks. He's lurching to globalist cancer in record time.
Why do you think he's buddies with Elon?
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:I ask again, what if the people of Greenland don't want to be a territory?
there are like 17 of them and they're armed with harpoons, I think we'll be fine
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:I ask again, what if the people of Greenland don't want to be a territory?
There is no way to predict what Trump will do 15 minutes from now given his mental decline, but despite what he teases there would not be a military conquest. IIRC Trump brought this up last time as well and it went no where.

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Anders wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I ask again, what if the people of Greenland don't want to be a territory?


In 2008, Greenland's citizens approved the Greenlandic self-government referendum with a 75% vote in favor of a higher degree of autonomy. Greenland took control of law enforcement, the coast guard, and the legal system. The official language changed from Danish to Greenlandic on 21 June 2009, with the day being celebrated as Greenland national day. The act gives control of foreign relations of Greenland to the island in trade and other areas it is responsible for. Greenland has representatives in Copenhagen, Brussels, Reykjavik, and Washington, D.C.

As part of the self-rule law of 2009 (section §21), Greenland can declare full independence if they wish to pursue it, but it would have to be approved by a referendum among the Greenlandic people. A poll in 2016 showed that there was a clear majority (64%) for full independence among the Greenlandic people, but a poll in 2017 showed that there was a clear opposition (78%) if it meant a fall in living standards.
Thank you for posting this. Last thing I read was that it was still under legal control of Denmark and the changes were largely symbolic but that could have been wrong.
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:North American Union? No fucking thanks. He's lurching to globalist cancer in record time.
Why do you think he's buddies with Elon?
Back in those innocent, early days of right-wing conspiracy culture, the "North American Union" was the big boogeyman that we were supposed to be afraid of (along with an unelected billionaire who controls things behind the scenes). Now the've got a boner for both of those things.
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I told you guys.

Bi and burt are bots. You’re wasting your time engaging. They’re here just to wear you down.
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dimejinky99 wrote:I told you guys.

Bi and burt are bots. You’re wasting your time engaging. They’re here just to wear you down.
burt is innocent!
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Farmer John wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:North American Union? No fucking thanks. He's lurching to globalist cancer in record time.
Why do you think he's buddies with Elon?
Back in those innocent, early days of right-wing conspiracy culture, the "North American Union" was the big boogeyman that we were supposed to be afraid of (along with an unelected billionaire who controls things behind the scenes). Now the've got a boner for both of those things.
Not sure that's the case, as there is a lot of criticism about it.
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Bi_3 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:I told you guys.

Bi and burt are bots. You’re wasting your time engaging. They’re here just to wear you down.
burt is innocent!
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:It's pretty simple. Greenland is a colony. Colonies aren't cool anymore and the people there are starting to understand what they are sitting on, so they are going to look for economic alignment. That means either the US side or the China side. Those are the options. So y'all can get as knickers twisted over Trump all day long but alignment with the US over China is infinitely better for everyone and pushing back on it because of your unending TDS is fucking mental. It's OK for us as citizens to allow Trump to make things better when one of his policies is a legitimately good idea. That's not endorsing White supremacy or fascism. You're not supporting the Handmaiden's Tale. That's just putting the future of the country, and in this case the continent, before bruised egos.
"colonies aren't cool anymore": goes on to defend Trump wanting to colonize Greenland.
He’s about as tactful as Trump.
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Bi_3 wrote:The key distinction lies in the degree of autonomy and self-governance: colonies were typically subject to direct, extensive control by the colonizing power, while territories often maintain more political independence and self-determination, even if they're not fully sovereign states.
I'll stick with my original post. A distinction with no real difference.
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BurtReynolds wrote:
Farmer John wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:North American Union? No fucking thanks. He's lurching to globalist cancer in record time.
Why do you think he's buddies with Elon?
Back in those innocent, early days of right-wing conspiracy culture, the "North American Union" was the big boogeyman that we were supposed to be afraid of (along with an unelected billionaire who controls things behind the scenes). Now the've got a boner for both of those things.
Not sure that's the case, as there is a lot of criticism about it.
Ok, well that's good to hear, I suppose. Keep fighting the good fight, InfoWarriors!
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Farmer John wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Farmer John wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:North American Union? No fucking thanks. He's lurching to globalist cancer in record time.
Why do you think he's buddies with Elon?
Back in those innocent, early days of right-wing conspiracy culture, the "North American Union" was the big boogeyman that we were supposed to be afraid of (along with an unelected billionaire who controls things behind the scenes). Now the've got a boner for both of those things.
Not sure that's the case, as there is a lot of criticism about it.
Ok, well that's good to hear, I suppose. Keep fighting the good fight, InfoWarriors!
No I think Alex Jones is still solidly up Trump's ass at the moment.
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Just so I understand... do folks here think turning Greenland into a US territory is a bad idea?
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I think expanding US territory should be priority #5,679. Let circle back to it in 2089.
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Bi_3 wrote:Just so I understand... do folks here think turning Greenland into a US territory is a bad idea?
youre right. america already has problems helping its people so no big deal to add 60K to the list

why stop at greenland. i bet we could also take the continent of africa too. that will establish a base of operations in the western hemisphere
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Cool, I already had you two in the "aggressively misunderstands the issue" bucket.
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Just let the people of Greenland know whatever it is you've decided for them.
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