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pearl jam sucks now
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tragabigzanda wrote:
wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
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I don’t know if this is unpopular, but Riot Act is my favorite b-side era.
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wease wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.

Its pretty brilliant.
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VinylGuy wrote:
wease wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.

Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
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Is gremmie.net still up?

It used to have all this stuff and a huge goldmine of all kinds of off cuts and alternative versions
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Apparently not. Just the logo.
Sad to see

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I'd never realised how different the LD version of U was from the original. Ed sounds very different. And LD version has got to be Matt drumming - not as good as Jack's effort sadly.
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wease wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
wease wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.

Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either. :lol:
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epilogue wrote:
wease wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
wease wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.

Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either. :lol:
The only thing I remember talking about around that time was people thinking Dave A played on Hold On because the liner notes said it was recorded during the Vs sessions. It was obvious it was Krusen just by listening but some couldn’t accept the liner notes could be wrong.
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wease wrote:
epilogue wrote:
wease wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
wease wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.

Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either. :lol:
The only thing I remember talking about around that time was people thinking Dave A played on Hold On because the liner notes said it was recorded during the Vs sessions. It was obvious it was Krusen just by listening but some couldn’t accept the liner notes could be wrong.
We're talking about U/You, not Hold On!
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epilogue wrote:
wease wrote:
epilogue wrote:
wease wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
wease wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.

Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either. :lol:
The only thing I remember talking about around that time was people thinking Dave A played on Hold On because the liner notes said it was recorded during the Vs sessions. It was obvious it was Krusen just by listening but some couldn’t accept the liner notes could be wrong.
We're talking about U/You, not Hold On!
Sad is the best song on LD and probably the best song they ever kept off an album.
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wease wrote:
epilogue wrote:
wease wrote:
epilogue wrote:
wease wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
wease wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.

Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either. :lol:
The only thing I remember talking about around that time was people thinking Dave A played on Hold On because the liner notes said it was recorded during the Vs sessions. It was obvious it was Krusen just by listening but some couldn’t accept the liner notes could be wrong.
We're talking about U/You, not Hold On!
Sad is the best song on LD and probably the best song they ever kept off an album.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Wow so that’s how it happened
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wease wrote:
epilogue wrote:
wease wrote:
epilogue wrote:
wease wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
wease wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.

Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either. :lol:
The only thing I remember talking about around that time was people thinking Dave A played on Hold On because the liner notes said it was recorded during the Vs sessions. It was obvious it was Krusen just by listening but some couldn’t accept the liner notes could be wrong.
We're talking about U/You, not Hold On!
Sad is the best song on LD and probably the best song they ever kept off an album.

Absolute poppycock

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So is that Matt on the Lost Dogs version of "U" or not? Because I've pretty much based my entire personality on Jack's performance on the original b-side version being far superior to Matt's performance on the Lost Dogs version. And now you're telling me that not only are they both Jack, but they're the exact same performance? Aye yai yai!
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pearl jam sucks now
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dimejinky99 wrote:
wease wrote:
epilogue wrote:
wease wrote:
epilogue wrote:
wease wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
wease wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.

Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either. :lol:
The only thing I remember talking about around that time was people thinking Dave A played on Hold On because the liner notes said it was recorded during the Vs sessions. It was obvious it was Krusen just by listening but some couldn’t accept the liner notes could be wrong.
We're talking about U/You, not Hold On!
Sad is the best song on LD and probably the best song they ever kept off an album.

Absolute poppycock

Fatal and strangest tribe are right there
How can you be wrong this many times in one day?
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Sad is OK but it's no Of the Earth.
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Birds in Hell wrote:Sad is OK but it's no Of the Earth.
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