Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Jorge wrote:Anyway, no, I think Al Jean is to blame
Looks like he left after season 4, which leaves 5 great seasons unaccounted for
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When reading this post it's important to remember that it's author is a devoted fan of SNL.tragabigzanda wrote:The Office is the only one that holds up, and you should still consider watching it.Jorge wrote:I've never watched any of those shows
30 Rock was great in its era but feels really dated now.
Parks & Rec mostly sucks. There are some side characters and guest stars that are really funny.
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I mean when he took over as sole showrunner in season 13. He was the show runner for like 20 yearstommy wrote:Jorge wrote:Anyway, no, I think Al Jean is to blame
Looks like he left after season 4, which leaves 5 great seasons unaccounted for
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Oh, I don't know my Simpsons history very well. Interesting.Jorge wrote:I mean when he took over as sole showrunner in season 13. He was the show runner for like 20 yearstommy wrote:Jorge wrote:Anyway, no, I think Al Jean is to blame
Looks like he left after season 4, which leaves 5 great seasons unaccounted for
Speaking from a place of ignorance I would only say that by season 13 the show had already been bad for 2 seasons.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Now I feel like I'd like to read a history of the Simpsons.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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I'm on board with that...more often than not I find the Michael Scott cringe stuff more obnoxious than funny.Farmer John wrote:Many of us here are of the opinion that it is superior to The Office.bada wrote:I've been watching Parks and Recreation and it makes me happy. I remember trying the first episode when it came out and dismissed it as a Office rip off but I'm really glad I gave it another chance.
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tragabigzanda wrote:SYSK did two really good episodes:tommy wrote:Now I feel like I'd like to read a history of the Simpsons.
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-stu ... -29467422/
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-stu ... -29467340/
Thanks, this looks perfect
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Thanks for sharing these.tragabigzanda wrote:SYSK did two really good episodes:tommy wrote:Now I feel like I'd like to read a history of the Simpsons.
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-stu ... -29467422/
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-stu ... -29467340/
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I think my NBC golden age rankings would be:
Parks and Rec
Community
30 Rock
The Office
Parks and Rec
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30 Rock
The Office
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The Office is way too low.Sloppy Dupree wrote:I think my NBC golden age rankings would be:
Parks and Rec
Community
30 Rock
The Office
But also it's hard to talk about an NBC "golden age" without talking about (at least) Seinfeld, Wings, Friends, Frasier, Mad About You, and Will and Grace.
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I think the post-Carell years tanks The Office. And I guess I meant “golden age for Millenials”epilogue wrote:The Office is way too low.Sloppy Dupree wrote:I think my NBC golden age rankings would be:
Parks and Rec
Community
30 Rock
The Office
But also it's hard to talk about an NBC "golden age" without talking about (at least) Seinfeld, Wings, Friends, Frasier, Mad About You, and Will and Grace.
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epilogue wrote:The Office is way too low.Sloppy Dupree wrote:I think my NBC golden age rankings would be:
Parks and Rec
Community
30 Rock
The Office
But also it's hard to talk about an NBC "golden age" without talking about (at least) Seinfeld, Wings, Friends, Frasier, Mad About You, and Will and Grace.
I specified their aughts golden age in my post.
Also, I don't consider The Office to be bad, it's just not as good as 30 Rock or Parks and Rec.
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I think season 8 is actually pretty strong. James Spader is fantastic, as is Gabe. Season 9 is absolutely terrible, though.Sloppy Dupree wrote:I think the post-Carell years tanks The Office. And I guess I meant “golden age for Millenials”epilogue wrote:The Office is way too low.Sloppy Dupree wrote:I think my NBC golden age rankings would be:
Parks and Rec
Community
30 Rock
The Office
But also it's hard to talk about an NBC "golden age" without talking about (at least) Seinfeld, Wings, Friends, Frasier, Mad About You, and Will and Grace.
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It's not as good as Parks and Rec, I agree.tommy wrote:epilogue wrote:The Office is way too low.Sloppy Dupree wrote:I think my NBC golden age rankings would be:
Parks and Rec
Community
30 Rock
The Office
But also it's hard to talk about an NBC "golden age" without talking about (at least) Seinfeld, Wings, Friends, Frasier, Mad About You, and Will and Grace.
I specified their aughts golden age in my post.
Also, I don't consider The Office to be bad, it's just not as good as 30 Rock or Parks and Rec.
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Not a 30 Rock fan?epilogue wrote:It's not as good as Parks and Rec, I agree.tommy wrote:epilogue wrote:The Office is way too low.Sloppy Dupree wrote:I think my NBC golden age rankings would be:
Parks and Rec
Community
30 Rock
The Office
But also it's hard to talk about an NBC "golden age" without talking about (at least) Seinfeld, Wings, Friends, Frasier, Mad About You, and Will and Grace.
I specified their aughts golden age in my post.
Also, I don't consider The Office to be bad, it's just not as good as 30 Rock or Parks and Rec.
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I like 30 Rock a lot. Warts and all.tommy wrote:Not a 30 Rock fan?epilogue wrote:It's not as good as Parks and Rec, I agree.tommy wrote:epilogue wrote:The Office is way too low.Sloppy Dupree wrote:I think my NBC golden age rankings would be:
Parks and Rec
Community
30 Rock
The Office
But also it's hard to talk about an NBC "golden age" without talking about (at least) Seinfeld, Wings, Friends, Frasier, Mad About You, and Will and Grace.
I specified their aughts golden age in my post.
Also, I don't consider The Office to be bad, it's just not as good as 30 Rock or Parks and Rec.