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by southp » Sat October 26, 2013 5:58 pm
cutuphalfdead wrote: Alright, this song definitely improves live.
But, as with the studio take, their are parts I really like and parts that really piss me off. They both get exaggerated live. Even though I hate Unthought Known, my favorite parts of Lightning Bolt are the parts that remind me of that song. The first 55 seconds are so are the best, and they're even better in a live setting. But then that chorus, it completely kills the song. It's like they're building up this really fun, semi interesting as far as modern pearl jam goes, song and then it just completely falls back into this stupid, generic chorus. Just awful.
I feel mostly the same as you, and agree that the live version improves some things. Unlike your comment, I find the chorus is better live because you can let the lyric just dissolve into the song and it doesn't come off so literal. It seems like old Ed would've found a darker twist to that chorus, but either way it doesn't totally kill the song for me... just drags it down one notch.
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by Norah » Sat October 26, 2013 5:59 pm
harmless wrote: cutuphalfdead wrote: harmless wrote: cutuphalfdead wrote: Alright, this song definitely improves live.
cutuphalfdead wrote: Just awful.
The parts I like are much better, but it just contrasts that much more with the parts that I hate.
Yeah, I'm just having fun. You apparently like the part that a lot of people dislike the most... the first verse?
The first 55 seconds are my favorite.
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by Norah » Sat October 26, 2013 6:00 pm
The verses on this song are a prime example of bad lyrics that don't bother me. The music is good enough that I don't care, and I just see the vocals as another musical element and ignore the actual words. I can't do that in the chorus because the music sucks too.
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by Thejambi » Sat October 26, 2013 6:02 pm
I was good with the lyrics till my wife harped on them.
"These metaphors are out of control"
I'm starting to agree.
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by stip » Sat October 26, 2013 7:07 pm
your wife is wrong. so is chud, but that is to be expected. Other than the first verse and the chorus this is all top notch, lyrically.
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by BurtReynolds » Sat October 26, 2013 7:15 pm
BO'B absolutely murders this song. I could tolerate it as another derivative PJ epic buildup song, but those goddamn keys in the second verse... holy fuck. And the whole point of the song is to get to the big finish at the end, so what does that fucker do? FADE OUT! of course!
perfect.
And I haven't even mentioned the wawawa laser shit.
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by stip » Sat October 26, 2013 7:22 pm
the fade out is second only to the life wasted fadeout in terms of sins against pearl jam.
It might be worse .
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by stip » Sat October 26, 2013 7:22 pm
the piano in the second verse is pretty similar to the fixer's bridge. I would have expected you to love it
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by BurtReynolds » Sat October 26, 2013 7:23 pm
stip wrote: the piano in the second verse is pretty similar to the fixer's bridge. I would have expected you to love it
i know, right!?
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by stip » Sat October 26, 2013 7:25 pm
damn you, Brendan O'Brien!
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by Thejambi » Sat October 26, 2013 7:27 pm
The RKO thing is making me sour.
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by stip » Sat October 26, 2013 7:31 pm
the what?
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by Thejambi » Sat October 26, 2013 7:36 pm
stip wrote: the what?
"She's your RKO" instead of "Rock and Roll".
I can't unhear it and I really loved the latter.
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by warehouse » Sat October 26, 2013 7:36 pm
stip wrote: the what?
he's not digging ed's perverted metaphors
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by Thejambi » Sat October 26, 2013 7:39 pm
warehouse wrote: stip wrote: the what?
he's not digging ed's perverted metaphors
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by Dr. Van Nostrand » Sat October 26, 2013 7:42 pm
stip wrote: the fade out is second only to the life wasted fadeout in terms of sins against pearl jam.
It might be worse .
Seeing and hearing how great the ending of the song was last night really makes me hate the fade
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by Thejambi » Sat October 26, 2013 7:44 pm
I'd be fine with the fade if it started 20 seconds later.
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by stip » Sat October 26, 2013 8:01 pm
Thejambi wrote: stip wrote: the what?
"She's your RKO" instead of "Rock and Roll".
I can't unhear it and I really loved the latter.
it's not just a 'furry thing' liner notes thing?
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by Dr. Van Nostrand » Sat October 26, 2013 8:08 pm
Thejambi wrote: stip wrote: the what?
"She's your RKO" instead of "Rock and Roll".
I can't unhear it and I really loved the latter.
Maybe ed is a wrestling fan
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by Thejambi » Sat October 26, 2013 8:09 pm
stip wrote: Thejambi wrote: stip wrote: the what?
"She's your RKO" instead of "Rock and Roll".
I can't unhear it and I really loved the latter.
it's not just a 'furry thing' liner notes thing?
I hear him clear as day on the studio cut. RKO
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