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need China to end it
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Actually a pretty good statement
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LOL

'which never would have started if I were president'

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I don't think Ukraine joining NATO was ever really on the table for the US.

Seems weird that Europeans wouldn't think their own security is up to them, but I guess generations of being protected will do that.
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We are in NATO together, not apart.
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The US took part in two world wars, but your attitude is that your country should be too cowardly this time, to stand up to a similar injustice.
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Anders wrote:The US took part in two world wars, but your attitude is that your country should be too cowardly this time, to stand up to a similar injustice.
I think it's time for you to grow up and be big boys and look to your own defense again. It's easy to be enlightened socialist democracies when you have a giant redneck, armed to the teeth with the weapons you loath, handling your military defense.
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Anders wrote:The US took part in two world wars, but your attitude is that your country should be too cowardly this time, to stand up to a similar injustice.
I think it's time for you to grow up and be big boys and look to your own defense again. It's easy to be enlightened socialist democracies when you have a giant redneck, armed to the teeth with the weapons you loath, handling your military defense.
That is a very offensive way of putting it. We are not a socialist democracy. We (Norway and the US) are both democracies. I am not a socialist. We don’t see your country, our ally, as a redneck. We don’t loath weapons, we manufacture weapons, we buy weapons from you, including planes. I’m a soldier, not a pacifist. I am loyal to the alliances I and my country makes. If you’re not, and you talk for the US, then please get the f out of NATO, and let us deal with it.
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We're not allied to Ukraine as far as i know, at least not in some NATO-like way, and I don't think our alliances were eternal agreements to provide the military for a whole continent forever. NATO was made to stop communism and the Soviet Union. Mission accomplished.
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How long ago did the maga-verse swallow BurtReynolds? RIP, he was a good one.
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BurtReynolds wrote:We're not allied to Ukraine as far as i know, at least not in some NATO-like way, and I don't think our alliances were eternal agreements to provide the military for a whole continent forever. NATO was made to stop communism and the Soviet Union. Mission accomplished.
Norway have historically made no promises and had no alliances with Ukraine, but guess what? The US did. The US has signed off on protecting them.
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Anders wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:We're not allied to Ukraine as far as i know, at least not in some NATO-like way, and I don't think our alliances were eternal agreements to provide the military for a whole continent forever. NATO was made to stop communism and the Soviet Union. Mission accomplished.
Norway have historically made no promises and had no alliances with Ukraine, but guess what? The US did. The US has signed off on protecting them.

He’s not here for any good faith debate. He’s just an antagonist out to cause trouble.
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I'm actually amazingly consistent, while you alternate between rabid support and abject hatred for the US intervention, CIA meddling and neocon world policing, depending on what the American Democrat party tells you is the good guy and bad guy at any given moment.

I've been this way since the second Iraq war and its yellow cake WMD lies. It's you people that changed and can't remain consistent, because you don't actually have any principals, just mindless partisanship.

Except Anders, who is a big fan of that war, too. He's just consistently wrong. But he has principles!
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