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dimejinky99 wrote:Lord give me the confidence of a bi or a Burt to spend all day on an internet forum pontificating about trans rights or gay rights or women’s rights while not having the first fuckin clue about any of these things and nothing but the determination to keep bullshitting on regardless.
Given your presence in this thread with us, it appears your prayers were answered!

I know a damn sight more about each of the things I mentioned than either of you single celled pondscum
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Epilogue quoted me, I barely responded, and you barged in like a hysterical child, whining that I posted here! Lol if you don't want me in here, stop summoning me!
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BurtReynolds wrote:Epilogue quoted me, I barely responded, and you barged in like a hysterical child, whining that I posted here! Lol if you don't want me in here, stop invoking me!

Burt you’re in plenty of spaces you’re not welcome.

The fuckin irony of it being lost on you and in this thread of all threads is just comedy.


Ps. You’re worst nightmare is coming true

scores of pissed off Mormon CIA agents who just got canned are ideologically cross-pollinating with platoons of fired trans FBI agents. we are on the verge of new types of politics our ancestors could only dream about
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At least you aren't using AI
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epilogue wrote:Unsurprised.

Like I said.
Burt’s attitude on oppression is identical to his attitude on speech restrictions: it’s wrong unless someone I like is doing it to someone I don’t like.

If the White House declared tomorrow that corporations must start screening applicants for evidence of leftist attitudes, or else be subject to fines or investigation, he would say “lol.”

If they end gay marriage, he won’t care about that either. “Weird. Seems like they’re the only ones left who wanted to get married.”

If they sent the military in to occupy Chicago or LA tomorrow, he’d be entertained as hell.

I don’t think he is personally bigoted, I just genuinely don’t think he cares about anybody else. He’ll probably read that as an insult, but it’s not meant as one. Some folks, that’s just how they’re born.

But I do think you’re gonna see him defend plenty of oppression against plenty of people before this whole thing is over.
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McParadigm wrote:
epilogue wrote:Unsurprised.

Like I said.
Burt’s attitude on oppression is identical to his attitude on speech restrictions: it’s wrong unless someone I like is doing it to someone I don’t like.

If the White House declared tomorrow that corporations must start screening applicants for evidence of leftist attitudes, or else be subject to fines or investigation, he would say “lol.”

If they end gay marriage, he won’t care about that either. “Weird. Seems like they’re the only ones left who wanted to get married.”

If they sent the military in to occupy Chicago or LA tomorrow, he’d be entertained as hell.

I don’t think he is personally bigoted, I just genuinely don’t think he cares about anybody else. He’ll probably read that as an insult, but it’s not meant as one. Some folks, that’s just how they’re born.

But I do think you’re gonna see him defend plenty of oppression against plenty of people before this whole thing is over.
Perhaps he's just not into obeying bullies.
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McParadigm wrote:
epilogue wrote:Unsurprised.

Like I said.
Burt’s attitude on oppression is identical to his attitude on speech restrictions: it’s wrong unless someone I like is doing it to someone I don’t like.

If the White House declared tomorrow that corporations must start screening applicants for evidence of leftist attitudes, or else be subject to fines or investigation, he would say “lol.”

If they end gay marriage, he won’t care about that either. “Weird. Seems like they’re the only ones left who wanted to get married.”

If they sent the military in to occupy Chicago or LA tomorrow, he’d be entertained as hell.

I don’t think he is personally bigoted, I just genuinely don’t think he cares about anybody else. He’ll probably read that as an insult, but it’s not meant as one. Some folks, that’s just how they’re born.

But I do think you’re gonna see him defend plenty of oppression against plenty of people before this whole thing is over.
That's such horseshit. Stop making up hypotheticals and straw men to dunk on.

No, I would not actually say lol if the white house started demanding leftists be screened out of corporations (well, I would find it kinda funny, I admit). Some will say that it's giving the left a taste of their own medicine, but I reject this because you people will never learn the lesson and see the light, and it just further normalizes the idea that I would have eradicated from the earth. And I have no doubt that you'd wholeheartedly support screening the right out everywhere.

I would, however, happily support banning the government from supporting, funding and requiring leftist departments of commissars, in government or private business. And again: no, it isn't oppression when you lose the privilege of tax payer support for your bullshit.


Again: what oppression?

Glancing through the article, of the things mentioned, bans from the military are the only thing that rises to any oppression, but depending on how it effects military effectiveness, it could be somewhat understandable (as the military is inherently oppressive and discriminatory). No, you aren't oppressed because you can't pummel women in a boxing ring or give your poor kids life altering surgery based on nothing.

Epilogue's thesis is fundamentally wrong, not to mention willfully dishonest. Debates around these issues do exist, There are not only trans people and the people who support them, and the people who support their oppression. Talk about a binary! This is "with us or against us" dishonest rhetoric. The only purpose of such rhetoric is to shut down debate. And everyone knows that, which is why the idea is mocked everywhere now.
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Also, dime, take note: I was once again summoned here to defend myself!
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Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
epilogue wrote:Unsurprised.

Like I said.
Burt’s attitude on oppression is identical to his attitude on speech restrictions: it’s wrong unless someone I like is doing it to someone I don’t like.

If the White House declared tomorrow that corporations must start screening applicants for evidence of leftist attitudes, or else be subject to fines or investigation, he would say “lol.”

If they end gay marriage, he won’t care about that either. “Weird. Seems like they’re the only ones left who wanted to get married.”

If they sent the military in to occupy Chicago or LA tomorrow, he’d be entertained as hell.

I don’t think he is personally bigoted, I just genuinely don’t think he cares about anybody else. He’ll probably read that as an insult, but it’s not meant as one. Some folks, that’s just how they’re born.

But I do think you’re gonna see him defend plenty of oppression against plenty of people before this whole thing is over.
Perhaps he's just not into obeying bullies.
You’ve got half the sentence. He hates bullying when he feels like he or a group that he identifies with is the target of it. Otherwise he doesn’t really care. He makes a point of expressing scorn.

You can tell me I’m being a bully right now by saying this, and that’s fine, but don’t tell me Burt is righteously opposed to bullying. He shrugs off bully behaviors by people in power all the time. And he couldn’t even react to my dystopian hypotheticals without admitting that he would think it was funny, and to explain why it would be deserved.
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With all the leftist mind readers and fortune tellers on the board, you should get together and become rich.
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BurtReynolds wrote:With all the leftist mind readers and fortune tellers on the board, you should get together and become rich.
Burt, my point was not “look at what an asshole Burt is.“ I was responding to durd, and suggesting that he not get drawn into arguments with you because you just don’t care. Nothing he ever writes to you on this forum is going to make you care about this group of people being treated this way.

Do you disagree with that statement?
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I don't have any special or particular care, no. They don't occupy some privileged position in my mind like they do in white knights like him. What difference does that make?

Treated like what way? Like basically like the rest of us assholes in America? Of course he could write something that would make me care about some group or another being oppressed. But for that he'd have to demonstrate it happening.
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BurtReynolds wrote:I don't have any special or particular care, no.
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Naomi Klein had a good bit about this today. The most malleable and soft headed are well along their way to being trained not to care about anyone they’ve been trained to think of as less or as a threat.
Reminder: we are being trained not to care about other people. It underlines the attacks on migrants, on DEI, on trans youth, on so-called "wokeness."

Sure there are legitimate critiques but this is not about critiques. It's about supercharging capitalism's culture of uncare.
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BurtReynolds wrote:I don't have any special or particular care, no.
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"one can't be made to care about oppression unless one is made to develop some special, exclusive care about the oppressed group. You can't care about them as merely human!"

Only that particular kind of self loathing white liberal with daddy/mommy issues could come up with something so wacky.

"How could one care about the plight of the uyghurs when they don't care about a random ass uyghur as much as they do their own mother! It's pointless to even engage with such callous folk!"

Real fucking genius take.
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Burt, I didn’t say that a person can’t care about a group of people if they don’t identify with them in some way. I said you don’t.

Whether you agree that it is an example of oppression or not, durd was posting an article about a targeted rollback of civil rights protections happening in America. That’s a topic to discuss. But you only rolled in to say “lol,” because you don’t care. The topic isn’t worth discussing in your mind, because you don’t care. Why are you acting like it’s offensive for me to say that? I asked if you disagreed with my statement, and you said you don’t care.

You have over 100 posts in this thread about a group of people you expressly don’t care about, and have never found cause to defend or support. You popped in this morning just to say “lol.”
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McParadigm wrote:Burt, I didn’t say that a person can’t care about a group of people if they don’t identify with them in some way. I said you don’t.

Whether you agree that it is an example of oppression or not, durd was posting an article about a targeted rollback of civil rights protections happening in America. That’s a topic to discuss. But you only rolled in to say “lol,” because you don’t care. The topic isn’t worth discussing in your mind, because you don’t care. Why are you acting like it’s offensive for me to say that? I asked if you disagreed with my statement, and you said you don’t care.

You have over 100 posts in this thread about a group of people you expressly don’t care about, and have never found cause to defend or support. You popped in this morning just to say “lol.”
No I said I don't PARTICULARLY or ESPECIALLY care about them (over anyone else.) That is, this topic doesn't occupy some outsized concern over any of the various other issues we talk about. That's not to say that I don't care about them at all. I care about them as human beings.

And I didn't roll in to say "lol". I rolled in to say "Lol what oppression?" And the "lol" was largely in response to him thinking that his post was some damning response to my criticism of his rhetoric.
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It’s more about owning the libs and any hit they take on the issues or people they care about, is a win for burt. Hence the ‘lol’

I’ve yet to see Burt or anyone on here thinks like him outline their problem with actual trans people (or any minority). It’s not even about taking away or diminishing their rights or right to even exist. As he says. He doesn’t care.
It’s more of a mindless WWE low iq (lol) tribalism he subscribes to. That’s all.
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