Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)

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tragabigzanda wrote:Also Paul’s pivot to courageous leader with an iron fist came out of nowhere!
It didn't though. He drank and survived the water of life. That was his transformation.
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tragabigzanda wrote:Also Paul’s pivot to courageous leader with an iron fist came out of nowhere!
It didn't though. He drank and survived the water of life. That was his transformation.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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I'm so tried of "sleepy" Tim criticism. It's lazy and inaccurate. And if you didn't think the two leads have chemistry? Well, fine, I guess art is subjective, but I don't get that at all.
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Agree with Joe.

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epilogue wrote:I'm so tried of "sleepy" Tim criticism. It's lazy and inaccurate. And if you didn't think the two leads have chemistry? Well, fine, I guess art is subjective, but I don't get that at all.
They definitely were sweet on each other; I don’t see any other read on their interactions
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Ello Sailor wrote:Agree with Joe.

(Please don't quote that.)

I agree as well
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:I'm so tried of "sleepy" Tim criticism. It's lazy
I don’t recall anyone else referring to him as sleepy, so now you’re just calling my ostensibly original ideas lazy
Calling him sleepy is VinylGuy's thing!
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Classic Trag.
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Mecca wrote:
epilogue wrote:I'm so tried of "sleepy" Tim criticism. It's lazy and inaccurate. And if you didn't think the two leads have chemistry? Well, fine, I guess art is subjective, but I don't get that at all.
They definitely were sweet on each other; I don’t see any other read on their interactions
“Sweet on each other,” yeah maybe. But it doesn’t feel like a passionate attraction full of conflicted tension. It feels like a dopey high schooler who has a crush on the college girl.
His sudden thrust into the battle for his own survival gets in the way of letting himself be too smitten with her. By the time he’s drinking the water of life, Muad’Dib has way more than passion to worry about. And i thought there was obvious conflict between them, especially in Zendaya’s portrayal
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Also I’m not sure trag is even that serious about his criticism. He called it worm sperm so I’m guessing not
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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I mean, they ARE dopey teenagers.

Also, Paul was literally trained before birth to lead and be a badass; between house Atriedes and the Bene Gesserit it was always the path laid before him. Maybe not this exact path, but to be a leader of people at least
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tragabigzanda wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Mecca wrote:
epilogue wrote:I'm so tried of "sleepy" Tim criticism. It's lazy and inaccurate. And if you didn't think the two leads have chemistry? Well, fine, I guess art is subjective, but I don't get that at all.
They definitely were sweet on each other; I don’t see any other read on their interactions
“Sweet on each other,” yeah maybe. But it doesn’t feel like a passionate attraction full of conflicted tension. It feels like a dopey high schooler who has a crush on the college girl.
His sudden thrust into the battle for his own survival gets in the way of letting himself be too smitten with her. By the time he’s drinking the water of life, Muad’Dib has way more than passion to worry about. And i thought there was obvious conflict between them, especially in Zendaya’s portrayal
Honestly I think she acts circles around him in this

I am serious about my criticism!
Good Lord! I would barely call that acting!

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Trag, I’m not sure if you’ve read the books, but i highly recommend not watching the third movie when it comes out. You’ll hate the pacing of the story
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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