4-23: Better Man vs. Do the Evolution

Post by **stip** » Tue April 08, 2025 11:07 pm

Better Man vs. Do the Evolution

Post by **epilogue** » Tue April 08, 2025 11:26 pm

WOOF!

This is tough... I'll have to come back to it. I'm leaning DTE but...

oasisfan35 · Post by **oasisfan35** » Tue April 08, 2025 11:48 pm

Matters · Post by **Matters** » Wed April 09, 2025 12:38 am

Brendan O’Brien is one of the heroes in the Pearl Jam story. DtE is top 10 but I’m tempted to vote for Better Man because of the song’s history and because when Ed’s guitar comes in after the intro and the first verse, chorus, second verse… maybe the best moment in the band’s history.

Post by B » Wed April 09, 2025 2:11 am

I'm going Betterman, but if this had popped up another day, I might've gone DTE.

Post by **epilogue** » Wed April 09, 2025 2:30 am

Now, I've only seen PJ live 11 times. One of those was the R&R Hall of Fame induction, which sort of feels like it doesn't count because it's not like a full show, you know?

Anyway, they've played DTE at every show I've attended except that Hall show (which again, feels like a technicality). So, I've seen that one live 10 times.

However... They did play Better Man at the Hall show. Which means, I've also seen that one 10 times live!

You can see why this is so difficult.

liebzz · Post by **liebzz** » Wed April 09, 2025 3:13 am

So…both have had their big moments where I was slackjawed at MSG (DTE in ‘03 “the stage is bouncing, sing like a choir!”; Better Man in 2010), and both are legitimately great songs live and on record, but I do much prefer DTE and would reach for that song 100/100 times if I only had the choice of one. But Better Man is still a great track.

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Wed April 09, 2025 4:00 am

Post by **stip** » Wed April 09, 2025 11:45 am

coin flip. appears to have come up better man. both titans

Post by **epilogue** » Wed April 09, 2025 12:33 pm

Yeah, after too much time thinking about this... I'm sticking with DTE.

lvc · Post by **lvc** » Wed April 09, 2025 2:24 pm

This may belong in the unpopular opinions thread, but this is the battle of the most tired, played-out songs in the deck.

Post by **stip** » Wed April 09, 2025 4:07 pm

two things can be true

liebzz · Post by **liebzz** » Wed April 09, 2025 4:58 pm

lvc wrote:This may belong in the unpopular opinions thread, but this is the battle of the most tired, played-out songs in the deck.

We can have a whole discussion on this. You have songs that are tired and overplayed in reality, songs that are overrated in reality, songs that are underrated in reality, songs that are overrated in RM in particular, songs that are underrated in RM in particular (largely due to being overrated in reality or overplayed in reality), songs that are tired and overplayed in RM in particular…

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