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Their GPU's are melting, which means they've probably evaporated couple of rivers to cool them down. But at least it's for a good cause.
contamination wrote:I thought there were supposed to be more efficient algorithms that would solve all the AI energy consumption problems. Well it sure doesn't look like it at the moment:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... -emissions

The abstract here (link is from that same article) https://arxiv.org/abs/2304.03271 about the AI water usage is also pretty worrying. I wonder if and how that has changed since the article was published:
The growing carbon footprint of artificial intelligence (AI) models, especially large ones such as GPT-3, has been undergoing public scrutiny. Unfortunately, however, the equally important and enormous water (withdrawal and consumption) footprint of AI models has remained under the radar. For example, training GPT-3 in Microsoft's state-of-the-art U.S. data centers can directly evaporate 700,000 liters of clean freshwater, but such information has been kept a secret. More critically, the global AI demand may be accountable for 4.2 -- 6.6 billion cubic meters of water withdrawal in 2027, which is more than the total annual water withdrawal of 4 -- 6 Denmark or half of the United Kingdom. This is very concerning, as freshwater scarcity has become one of the most pressing challenges shared by all of us in the wake of the rapidly growing population, depleting water resources, and aging water infrastructures. To respond to the global water challenges, AI models can, and also must, take social responsibility and lead by example by addressing their own water footprint. In this paper, we provide a principled methodology to estimate the water footprint of AI models, and also discuss the unique spatial-temporal diversities of AI models' runtime water efficiency. Finally, we highlight the necessity of holistically addressing water footprint along with carbon footprint to enable truly sustainable AI.
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I hope our AI overlords are merciful.

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Here's an opinion piece from a local author that I really like
An adult can live without knowing anything, but what kind of world will our children inherit?

During graduation season, there are many public statements expressing compassion for those finishing school. The message is that you are valuable, even if you haven't achieved top grades or started a business during confirmation class.

While this is a good and important message, in the current atmosphere, one might wonder if it would sometimes be appropriate to celebrate and encourage those who have genuinely put in effort and haven't taken the easy route with the help of artificial intelligence.

In May, New York Magazine published a provocative article titled "Everyone cheats their way through college." In it, Chung "Roy" Lee, a computer science student at Columbia University, reveals that he completes most of his assignments using generative AI because he finds them mostly pointless and lacks interest in doing them. Instead of a thirst for knowledge, his motivation to attend the prestigious university was the understanding that it's the best place to meet wives and funders.

Similar reports have emerged from Finland. In June, Associate Professor Veikko Eranti from the University of Helsinki mentioned that he had started conducting oral exams because students were blatantly using AI to write their essays. Some didn't even bother to check if the AI-generated answers, supposedly based on the textbook, were completely nonsensical. Often, they were.

Students have developed various ways to cheat, probably as long as schools have existed. The methods have varied from cheat sheets to formulas written on the inside of the arm, but the basic idea has remained the same: take the easy way out.

However, never before has it been this easy. Even cheating no longer requires effort.

Of course, no one can be forced to learn or study. If an adult chooses to live without knowing or learning anything, they have every right to do so. There's no need to waste moral panic on self-deception. Instead, it should be directed at the consequences.

What kind of society and world are people building who are too lazy to even cheat? Will they ask AI how to stop climate change and fix the pension system?

Humanity is facing unprecedented crises, yet students graduate from basic school who can't even read properly. Not everyone needs to become a professor, but what becomes of them when vocational education has also been degraded to a state of decline due to cuts?

Perhaps members of parliament.

Suomen Kuvalehti magazine recently revealed that some members of parliament use AI to write their speeches. AI is also used to record speeches, meaning that in the best case, during a plenary session, AI records speeches that were also written by AI.

Additionally, AI reviews documents on behalf of members of parliament and summarizes them. Mika Lintilä from the Centre Party even rejoiced in a newspaper about how much AI could increase 'productivity.'

With Lintilä and other representatives' somewhat shaky IT skills (At the time serving as Minister of Economic Affairs and a member of the government, Lintilä shared a meme defaming the prime minister on a WhatsApp channel that included members from various political parties. He later claimed that he had not sent the message himself, but that his phone had been hacked. A thorough police investigation found no evidence of the phone being hacked.), the knowledge that they might be feeding who-knows-what documents, perhaps to Elon Musk's AI company, is enough to evoke sheer panic.

Communists dreamed that as societies developed, citizens could use their increased free time for personal intellectual growth. They were wrong.

With theses written by AI, people are hired to create PowerPoint slides with AI, which the AI then refines into press releases, based on which AI writes news, which AI reads aloud so that people can focus on watching videos made by AI.

If this so-called developmental regression is distressing or depressing, don't worry.

You can always chat with AI.

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I’m not a full-throated supporter of the AI business, but there is obviously promise to it (mainly medical), that could be harnessed for good. Likely will just be profit-driven, though, of course. But when it comes to media (news, social, and otherwise), I’d love for a mandated “this is AI” label.
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Lots of talk about the AI bubble finally bursting. Interesting to see what happens.
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Such a slap in the face.
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https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/llms- ... eand-never

The more I read about LLMs, the more it seems that they're not much different from a talking parrot. Both of them can be taught to mimic a human speech, and neither of them have no understanding whatsoever about what they have just said, let alone if the answer is true.

Well, the bird at least has some kind of cognition and perhaps it understands that if it mimics a phrase it was taught, it might get a reward, whereas the algorithm is just putting words or parts of words together based on statistical probability.

And yet more and more people seem to be relying on these AI's in their every day life. Part of why this is happening is probably due to marketing. When these companies describe their AI to be like "talking a legitimate PhD-level expert in anything, any area you need." it will definitely give people the idea that there's some thinking, human like entity, but smarter, answering the questions. And that then boosts their stock value and gets them more investments.

But lot's of people also seem to be noticing that the models are not delivering what was promised, so it's interesting to see if and when the bubble will burst.
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Since we're all mostly in the same age bracket here, anyone doing anything to better their knowledge of AI? I know some of you use Chat GPT as a search engine, and so does my wife and my 15 year old stepson. It drives me nuts. I feel like my parents' generation is the one that got left behind on the internet, but our generation could be the next to be in the dark.

I've started taking a moderately intense online tutorial that covers a lot of different AI programs and apps. It's about an hour a day for a month or so, but feel like it will be useful moving forward.
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