WNBA

[epilogue]

Joe is such a gaslighting POS lmao.

This is incredibly hurtful and crosses a line.

[epilogue]

Nah, you can’t get away with that joke, or claiming it was. Too many examples of you accusing posters of being women haters.

Okay, well I obviously can't do anything to convince you. Believe whatever you want. But it was entirely meant to be funny. Ivc understood that and that's all that matters.

I'd love to see examples of my calling people "women haters." I'm not saying it hasn't happened but I'd need to see the context. Because I bet they said something damning to warrant that response. Calling out misogynistic behavior isn't a bad thing even if it makes you uncomfortable.

[epilogue]

But maybe you guys can take this shit to GD and continue there so this can be a thread about the WNBA. We have enough threads about board bullshit, we didn't need to derail this one, too.

[Monkey_Driven]

Nah, you can’t get away with that joke, or claiming it was. Too many examples of you accusing posters of being women haters.

Okay, well I obviously can't do anything to convince you. Believe whatever you want. But it was entirely meant to be funny. Ivc understood that and that's all that matters.

I'd love to see examples of my calling people "women haters." I'm not saying it hasn't happened but I'd need to see the context. Because I bet they said something damning to warrant that response. Calling out misogynistic behavior isn't a bad thing even if it makes you uncomfortable.

Was LVC being misogynistic? Or are you making a strawman argument to defend your initial post?

[spike]

Nah, you can’t get away with that joke, or claiming it was. Too many examples of you accusing posters of being women haters.

Okay, well I obviously can't do anything to convince you. Believe whatever you want. But it was entirely meant to be funny. Ivc understood that and that's all that matters.

I'd love to see examples of my calling people "women haters." I'm not saying it hasn't happened but I'd need to see the context. Because I bet they said something damning to warrant that response. Calling out misogynistic behavior isn't a bad thing even if it makes you uncomfortable.

it doesn't make me uncomfortable at all

[Jorge]

Joe is such a gaslighting POS lmao.

This is incredibly hurtful and crosses a line.

I believe you

The rest of the post reads earnest and indignant so the jump to "I bet you think women shouldn't vote" doesn't register as comedically over-the-top as intended

But I get what you were going for

[Peeps]

meh i dont think joey is gaslighting. i think it is very apparent he cares deeply about womens issues and may at times let his passion cloud his judgement but i dont think it is anything intentional

[Jorge]

Nah, you can’t get away with that joke, or claiming it was. Too many examples of you accusing posters of being women haters.

Okay, well I obviously can't do anything to convince you. Believe whatever you want. But it was entirely meant to be funny. Ivc understood that and that's all that matters.

I'd love to see examples of my calling people "women haters." I'm not saying it hasn't happened but I'd need to see the context. Because I bet they said something damning to warrant that response. Calling out misogynistic behavior isn't a bad thing even if it makes you uncomfortable.

Was LVC being misogynistic? Or are you making a strawman argument to defend your initial post?

The ironic thing is that this post is the strawman argument, because Joe hasn't said lvc is being misogynistic (if we believe the "you must not want women to vote" comment was a joke, which I do)

[Jorge]

I know it's not uncommon for certain posters to infer that someone is racist or sexist for disliking a certain piece of entertainment -- it's happened a lot in A&E, where thoughtful and well-articulated opinions are sometimes conflated with those of the most toxic people on the internet by sheer virtue of standing on the same side of the Like vs. Dislike spectrum. But I'm talking about what went down in this thread exclusively, and I think Joe is being misunderstood.

[epilogue]

Nah, you can’t get away with that joke, or claiming it was. Too many examples of you accusing posters of being women haters.

Okay, well I obviously can't do anything to convince you. Believe whatever you want. But it was entirely meant to be funny. Ivc understood that and that's all that matters.

I'd love to see examples of my calling people "women haters." I'm not saying it hasn't happened but I'd need to see the context. Because I bet they said something damning to warrant that response. Calling out misogynistic behavior isn't a bad thing even if it makes you uncomfortable.

Was LVC being misogynistic? Or are you making a strawman argument to defend your initial post?

No, he wasn't being misogynistic at all.

What strawman are you taking about?

[epilogue]

Nah, you can’t get away with that joke, or claiming it was. Too many examples of you accusing posters of being women haters.

Okay, well I obviously can't do anything to convince you. Believe whatever you want. But it was entirely meant to be funny. Ivc understood that and that's all that matters.

I'd love to see examples of my calling people "women haters." I'm not saying it hasn't happened but I'd need to see the context. Because I bet they said something damning to warrant that response. Calling out misogynistic behavior isn't a bad thing even if it makes you uncomfortable.

it doesn't make me uncomfortable at all

Clearly

[epilogue]

Joe is such a gaslighting POS lmao.

This is incredibly hurtful and crosses a line.

I believe you

The rest of the post reads earnest and indignant so the jump to "I bet you think women shouldn't vote" doesn't register as comedically over-the-top as intended

But I get what you were going for

I really appreciate this. Thank you.

[Monkey_Driven]

I know it's not uncommon for certain posters to infer that someone is racist or sexist for disliking a certain piece of entertainment -- it's happened a lot in A&E, where thoughtful and well-articulated opinions are sometimes conflated with that of the most toxic people on the internet by sheer virtue of standing on the same side of the Like vs. Dislike spectrum. But I'm talking about what went down in this thread exclusively, and I think Joe is being misunderstood.

I do too. It's even further complicated by the waves of criticism and misogyny the league has faced since it was formed 30 years ago.

But there's also a history of Epilogue changing the intention of his posts after the fact if the reaction is too severe. I don't think that's an unfair observation.

[VinylGuy]

ey i laughed with his post!

Also, i think women´s right to vote needs to end now

[epilogue]

Congrats to the Valkyries on their first ever franchise win last night! Way to take down the (surprise) undefeated Mystics.

[Ello Sailor]

Joe is such a gaslighting POS lmao.

This is incredibly hurtful and crosses a line.

So absurd that it was clearly a joke, bro.

[epilogue]

Great win tonight, Liberty!

I feel bad for Chicago. They're really struggling out of the gate. Hopefully, they can turn it around. Still a lot of season left.

[Bammer]

how many very good college players forgo the WNBA to play overseas where the pay is more enticing?

That's another great question/point. Hopefully, the new CBA fixes that.

Is the issue that:
A) Owners aren’t sharing much of the revenue with players in the form of salaries;
Or
B) There isn’t enough revenue - ticket sales, TV ads, etc. - to pay the salaries that would compete with overseas money?

In other words:
A) Greedy owners?
Or
B) Lack of revenue / interest in the sport?

I dont know much bout WNBA, but here in Argentina, both basketball and soccer in their female leagues have been growing a lot, really fast these last 10 years from what it used to be. Its still very far from other succesful and marketable female sports like tennis, but its going there for sure.

Good!

If they can sell tickets then the players should get PAID!

But first you gotta sell tickets.

Okay good. Then you agree. The league experienced record attendance and viewership last year. There's been a rise in sponsorship and ad revenue. There's a new 11 year media rights deal set to hit next year and the CBA is up for negotiation. You admit they deserve a raise given ticket sales so I'm not sure why you're in attack mode here.

The sport is growing. It's never been more popular o profitable. The league is expanding. They added a new team this year, and two more are coming. You make more per year than these professional athletes (at least the ones without State Farm commercials or Nike shoe deals). It's weird how badly you don't want them to get paid even a little more money.

lol ok bro

[epilogue]

I haven't watched any of the highlights from the Fever v Dream game. But box score makes it look like it was a good one.

[epilogue]

The Liberty set WNBA single season record with 19 3PM last night.