The War on Terror /Central Asia/Mid East/Africa thread

[Bi_3]

US attacked iran

[spike]

the two week taco memes got to him

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He did this seemingly to spite Obama. This is Trump’s war.

[dimejinky99]

That’s.. thats certainly one way of looking at it.
It ignores just about everything else but

[Bi_3]

He did this seemingly to spite Obama. This is Trump’s war.

Again with the white supremacist accounts. Iran was noncompliant with the JCPOA treaty at the time Trump withdrew and IAEA found near weapons grade enrichment, enrichment beyond what is used for civilian purposes, in Fordow in 2023. Only a fool would believe Fordow was anything but a weapons facility. BUT, that does not mean the US has a right to strike it. The constitution clearly vests the power to declare war with Congress and this attack was not approved. It probably violated dozens of other treaties as well. This is an impeachable offense.

The problem is that it’s done and cannot be undone. So we have the same shitty choice we had in Iraq; either fight to win or fight to lose

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US attacked iran

There goes that Nobel peace prize.

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You alright, bi?

[dimejinky99]

Voltaire had something to say about people like Bi. Something about worshipping the chains that imprison them

[dimejinky99]

One of the head clerics is now saying Shia Muslims no matter where they are, need to prepare to retaliate. That’s being taken to mean we’re in for attacks pretty much anywhere in the west. So thanks for that Bibi and Donald just wonderful stuff altogether.

Everything that happens from now on is directly netenyahu and trumps fault, so print that out and put it on your office notice board or in a teams email.

[Bi_3]

You alright, bi?

No. As I said before, this was terrible mistake. Asymmetric attacks are all but guaranteed anywhere and everywhere you have a significant Islamic presence and the West is not psychologically prepared to live like Israelis are forced to.

[dimejinky99]

Israel starting all this to force the rest of the world to have to live like the poor Israelis do.

That’s some take. It’s not even that far fetched

[spike]

You alright, bi?

No. As I said before, this was terrible mistake. Asymmetric attacks are all but guaranteed anywhere and everywhere you have a significant Islamic presence and the West is not psychologically prepared to live like Israelis are forced to.

Stay frosty. We need you sussing out all the white supremacist accounts on social media. Might be all of them.

[Bi_3]

Israel starting all this to force the rest of the world to have to live like the poor Israelis do.

That’s some take. It’s not even that far fetched

Your continued inability to understand context and causation never ceases to amaze. On October 6th, 2023 the world was as close to peace as it has ever been. The Abraham Accords were in effect. 18,000 Gazans were allowed into Israel every day to work and earn money for their families back home, the closest ties between Israel and the Palestinian territories since Israel left Gaza to local control in 2005. The Saudis were barely a week away from signing a similar agreement with Israel to normalize relations for the first time in history. Then on October 7th, 2023, the Iranian proxy Hamas initiated a massacre in Israel killing over 1200 people, trying to start a regional war to block the Saudi-Israeli normalization treaty that would weaken Islamic Republic politically and provide a alternative path for gulf energy resource to the Iranian controlled Strait of Hormuz. The very next day, on October 8th 20023, the Iranian proxy Hezbollah that was occupying and terrorizing large parts of Lebanon began firing rockets into Israel to support Hamas and try to draw the rest of the region into war. We saw similar behavior from the Iranian-backed group the 'Houthis' who had initiated a civil war in Yemen in the mid-2010s. When Israel went into Lebanon to deal with Hezbollah, some of their leadership retreated to the Iranian consulate assuming they could continue their attacks and Israel would not dare go after them there. Israel did, triggering a large military response from Iran that was repelled by a coalition of the vary same nations that Hamas was try to divide. I hope you know the rest from here.

Now, I know the first thing in your head will be something like 'but what about 1947 or 1973 or 1989 (Taylor's Version) or the British Mandate or the establishment of the Lukid party' or some ever changing moment pulled from history where things were 'just' and there wasn't colonial oppression, as if Islam itself is not a colonial project, but this betrays a very clear lack of understanding about reality. The reality is that not matter how much you want to fight oppression, you cannot go backwards in time. It is not possible. All you can do is look at where we are today and try to move towards a world where people don't live in an endless cycle of fear and hate. We were right there on that path on October 6th.

The core problem with what happened yesterday is that it doesn't work to solve for that better world. It teaches every other country that they are second-class nations and that their populations are subject to the double standards of the global military powers (US, Russia, China, etc.)... unless like Pakistan and North Korea they have nuclear weapons. And then no one will fuck with them. So in delaying Iran's nuclear weapons program for optimistically two years, we just gave the most potent possible explanation of why countries should have a nuclear weapons program. A thoughtless and arrogant move that history will no doubt see as a tragic turning point.

[dimejinky99]

Yeah I won’t be taking or even reading lectures from you or anyone of your ilk I’m afraid, Bi.

Let me know if Trump gets that Nobel prize though. I’m rooting for you!

[washing machine]

I don't have a dog in the forum fight here, but the idea that bi is a trump loyalist is laughable. How did you get that from his post?

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I don't have a dog in the forum fight here, but the idea that bi is a trump loyalist is laughable. How did you get that from his post?

How did you get Trump loyalist from dime's post?

Or are you referring to a different post than the one right above?

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I don't have a dog in the forum fight here, but the idea that bi is a trump loyalist is laughable. How did you get that from his post?

How did you get Trump loyalist from dime's post?

Or are you referring to a different post than the one right above?

Let me know if Trump gets that Nobel prize though. I’m rooting for you!

Seems pretty clear.

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I don't have a dog in the forum fight here, but the idea that bi is a trump loyalist is laughable. How did you get that from his post?

How did you get Trump loyalist from dime's post?

Or are you referring to a different post than the one right above?

Let me know if Trump gets that Nobel prize though. I’m rooting for you!

Seems pretty clear.

I'm not sure it is. Bi just posted about how much Trump could deserve the prize. Feels like a reference to that post to me.

[dimejinky99]

He isn’t a Trump loyalist? Youd need to explain or reframe several years posting history if that’s the case. Loyalist or not he’s here on the daily explaining and validating what Trump meant to say / should do etc

This mornings was a Doozy, the Nobel prize post. Look it up for a giggle.

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Welp... I apologize, washing machine. Play through.