Israel & Palestine

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The terrorists are currently winning this war of (mis)information. How do I know which side are the bad guys? The ones who's public slogan is "death to America, death to Israel".

[dimejinky99]

Misinformation war?

You just posted a YouTube video full of misinformation from a page called ‘travel Israel’ and expected us to take it as an unbiased totally neutral objective view

While you’re there, the beheaded Israeli babies. That Israel said Hamas killed. Never heard them mentioned ever again. What gives?

If you want to talk about misinformation, I mean

[tree_]

Misinformation war?

You just posted a YouTube video full of misinformation from a page called ‘travel Israel’ and expected us to take it as an unbiased totally neutral objective view

While you’re there, the beheaded Israeli babies. That Israel said Hamas killed. Never heard them mentioned ever again. What gives?

If you want to talk about misinformation, I mean

he makes a lot of interesting points you might want to consider. i never said i expect you to "take it as an unbiased totally neutral objective view". jeez louize!

[Bi_3]

[spike]

Why wouldn’t homeless and on the brink of famine Gazans not want the war to end?

Hamas wants as many casualties as possible

Yup. Why wouldn't they release the hostages? They want unending violence from Israel as their power comes from their martyrdom. Peace weakens them more than famine as famine is just other way to die for the cause.


But that tweet is just a rumor circulating right now. Would be about as good as possible outcome for this tragedy, but we'll see.

I figured you meant Hamas, not all Gazans.

[spike]

[dimejinky99]

The Brits are at it again
They wouldn’t show kneecaps set on the live Glastonbury feed in case they may say something about Israel carrying out a genocide.
Bob Vylan was on before them and they did show his set and he went in fully with ‘free Palestine’ and ‘death death to the IDF’ and bbc showed that. Now the bbc are getting it in the neck from the Israeli govt and even Glastonbury’s organisers

So once again, calling out a genocide is wrong and to be closed down and police investigate you criminally if you start such a chant. But if you’re carrying out such a genocide, no investigation whatsoever.

Glastonbury has condemned Bob Vylan after a set branded “deeply offensive” by the BBC.

On Saturday, rapper Bobby Vylan, of rap punk duo Bob Vylan, led crowds on the festival’s West Holts Stage in chants of “Free, free Palestine” and “Death, death to the IDF [Israel Defence League].”


https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-ente ... id=bluesky

[VinylGuy]

The festival statement is so embarrasing

[dimejinky99]

The festival statement is so embarrasing

They’re already regretting it

[dimejinky99]

Opioid pills discovered in US-backed food aid, Gaza authorities say
US-Israeli aid distributor the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation has been widely condemned for possible complicity in war crimes

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/opio ... rities-say

[Bi_3]

[dimejinky99]

Perfect example of how fuckin retarded and unable to form an argument that isn’t hand fed to him Bi is. As if we needed any further evidence of it.
Fucktard

[Bi_3]

Perfect example of how fuckin retarded and unable to form an argument that isn’t hand fed to him Bi is. As if we needed any further evidence of it.
Fucktard

It’s incredibly ironic given that what kicked off this round of violence was that so many were slaughtered at a music festival by evil operating under that same flag being waved at Glastonbury today.

[dimejinky99]

Perfect example of how fuckin retarded and unable to form an argument that isn’t hand fed to him Bi is. As if we needed any further evidence of it.
Fucktard

It’s incredibly ironic given that what kicked off this round of violence was that so many were slaughtered at a music festival by evil operating under that same flag being waved at Glastonbury today.

What flag is that? What do you mean?

[Peeps]

Perfect example of how fuckin retarded and unable to form an argument that isn’t hand fed to him Bi is. As if we needed any further evidence of it.
Fucktard

It’s incredibly ironic given that what kicked off this round of violence was that so many were slaughtered at a music festival by evil operating under that same flag being waved at Glastonbury today.

What flag is that? What do you mean?

talk about hand feeding....pot meet mr kettle

[Bi_3]

I love this take, gets it exactly right, and the videos show the great lie of Gaza as a 'concentration camp'.

A Tale of Two Palestinian Cities.

Some were outraged when I stated earlier that we, as Gulf Arabs, no longer wish to destroy our nations and futures for a cause that, for 70 years, has brought us nothing but terrorism, accusations, betrayal, and alliances with our enemies. The moment we say: “We want to live,” we are branded Zionists. By who? By people sitting comfortably in Malaysia, Pakistan, Indonesia, the West - sipping lattes and tweeting from safe homes - demanding we fight and die for their version of solidarity.

So let me show you two realities.

The first video is from Gaza, April 2025 - 18 months into a war that never needed to happen. There was no prior Israeli provocation, no bombing campaign, no invasion leading up to October 7. Things were improving. Israel was issuing 22,000 daily work permits for Gazans, and negotiations were underway - with Saudi mediation - for improving Gaza’s conditions in exchange for moderation. Then Hamas, acting on behalf of Iran, blew it all up. October 7 wasn’t resistance. It was sabotage. A completely unnecessary massacre - not for Palestinian liberation, but to derail Saudi-Israeli normalization and regional peace. It was Tehran’s agenda, paid in Palestinian blood.

The second video is from the Palestinian capital, Ramallah, also April 2025 - the ICON Mall grand opening. Music. Dancing. Luxury stores. BMWs pulling in. Palestinians celebrating as if Gaza were on another continent. No outrage. No mourning. Just luxury shopping and selfies. If they, the fellow Palestinians, aren’t standing in the rubble, why are we told we must?

Let’s also get this straight: Gaza has been “free” since 2005. The siege? It started in 2007, after Hamas took power by killing 300 fellow Palestinians (PA Police) and throwing them off rooftops. Since then, Israel still gave out work permits. Egypt, on the other hand, kept the Rafah border completely sealed. Even during the war’s worst days, Egypt wouldn’t open it - barely for aid, not for refugees. Not one work permit. Nothing.

If Gaza was truly a prison, why didn’t Hamas break out through Egypt? Why always toward Israel? Because Egypt would shoot - not negotiate. But you won’t see the usual online “activists” blaming Cairo. No. It’s always easier to guilt-trip the Gulf Countries.

So no - we will not join your death cult. We will not die for the cause while Ramallah dances and Cairo locks the gate. And to all the comfortable, self-righteous voices screaming “solidarity”: shut the fuck up and go die in Gaza yourselves if you care that much. Don’t lecture us from safety. Don’t demand sacrifice from others while you live off hashtags.

If the people of Ramallah aren’t bothered - if their own fellow Palestinians can dance on the same day others die - why the hell should we?

Spare us the pious performative grief. We’ve seen through it. The cause was hijacked long ago by ye Ayatollahs of Tehran - and we are done dying for other people’s delusions.

[spike]

sounds good, comfortable, self-righteous voice.

[Bi_3]

sounds good, comfortable, self-righteous voice.

[VinylGuy]

that bitch knows her place right?

[lvc]

The Brits are at it again
They wouldn’t show kneecaps set on the live Glastonbury feed in case they may say something about Israel carrying out a genocide.
Bob Vylan was on before them and they did show his set and he went in fully with ‘free Palestine’ and ‘death death to the IDF’ and bbc showed that. Now the bbc are getting it in the neck from the Israeli govt and even Glastonbury’s organisers

So once again, calling out a genocide is wrong and to be closed down and police investigate you criminally if you start such a chant. But if you’re carrying out such a genocide, no investigation whatsoever.

Glastonbury has condemned Bob Vylan after a set branded “deeply offensive” by the BBC.

On Saturday, rapper Bobby Vylan, of rap punk duo Bob Vylan, led crowds on the festival’s West Holts Stage in chants of “Free, free Palestine” and “Death, death to the IDF [Israel Defence League].”


https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-ente ... id=bluesky

Bullshit. It's easy to play the "who, innocent old me?" card and twist the narrative to claim you're being persecuted for your political beliefs when in actuality you're being investigated for potentially inciting violence. If you've got the balls to chant "death to [insert any nation you chose]" on stage before thousands of people, you better have the balls for whichever nation you chose or its allies to check you.

Sometimes people silence you because they're scared of you. But sometimes it's just because you're an asshole.

This whole narrative has so much in common with Trumpism that it's sickening. 1) Be as abrasive and aggressive as possible. 2) Dismiss or even weaponize every ounce of resistance to your behavior as resistance to your politics and beliefs. 3) Become the consummate oppressed living martyr.

A demagogue is a demagogue no matter the political bent.