Next Drumoise

[bodysnatcher]

The new drummer is just going to be Tim Bierman, standing shirtless in the back center of the stage, playing bongos on his bare belly

[liebzz]

It’s amazing how many of you go down these paths. Eddie sounded great on this last cycle and probably even the cycle before it. They should continue to play hard rock, but they should also pick a new drummer and let it influence their sound and come back with something fresh. They have had two excellent albums in a row and this gives them an opportunity to grow on that while coming up with something very different. Whatever that is, I just hope it’s as inspired.

[oneway23]

man, I don't care how cool you look in a beanie, it cannot be comfortable unless you're in a cold climate all of the time, and therefore it just looks like you're trying so hard to look like a cool person you are sacrificing your comfort, which is lame

They itch like a mofo, too

Someone literally murdered someone with their vehicle and it's a beanie that makes you balk?

Hey, if the band and their management are willing to condone murder, who the fuck am I?

The homicide only confirms what the beanie had already told me.

[warehouse]

not to be a debbie downer, but can we stop with the josh klinghoffer is a murderer stuff? i get joking about it when it happen, but making it this running schtick on this board is fucking weird.

what songs did he drum on?

[oneway23]

not to be a debbie downer, but can we stop with the josh klinghoffer is a murderer stuff? i get joking about it when it happen, but making it this running schtick on this board is fucking weird.

what songs did he drum on?

You've been here for 15 years...this behaviour is nothing new.

It's how this board processes their collective anguish.

[warehouse]

not to be a debbie downer, but can we stop with the josh klinghoffer is a murderer stuff? i get joking about it when it happen, but making it this running schtick on this board is fucking weird.

what songs did he drum on?

You've been here for 15 years...this behaviour is nothing new.

It's how this board processes their collective anguish.

anguish? lol it's been a year. it's just people being weird trying to be clever and funny. i know thats not new, but this is a little over the top.

can i get a list of songs josh drummed on?

[Birds in Hell]

lol it's been a year.

You can't be serious.

And yes, I do think it's important we remember that Josh Klinghoffer killed a guy.

[oneway23]

not to be a debbie downer, but can we stop with the josh klinghoffer is a murderer stuff? i get joking about it when it happen, but making it this running schtick on this board is fucking weird.

what songs did he drum on?

You've been here for 15 years...this behaviour is nothing new.

It's how this board processes their collective anguish.

anguish? lol it's been a year. it's just people being weird trying to be clever and funny. i know thats not new, but this is a little over the top.

can i get a list of songs josh drummed on?

Josh Klinghoffer drummed on John Frusciante's "A Sphere in the Heart of Silence" album.

[warehouse]

lol it's been a year.

You can't be serious.

And yes, I do think it's important we remember that Josh Klinghoffer killed a guy.

serious about what? didn't he kill the guy last summer? how long does your anguish last for a person you don't know?

what is important about remembering josh klinghoffer accidentally killed someone? it sounds tragic from his perspective, too. bringing it up constantly is weird, even for RM's standards of weird.

[warehouse]

not to be a debbie downer, but can we stop with the josh klinghoffer is a murderer stuff? i get joking about it when it happen, but making it this running schtick on this board is fucking weird.

what songs did he drum on?

You've been here for 15 years...this behaviour is nothing new.

It's how this board processes their collective anguish.

anguish? lol it's been a year. it's just people being weird trying to be clever and funny. i know thats not new, but this is a little over the top.

can i get a list of songs josh drummed on?

Good luck trying to retroactively apply a morality clause to this place...A fool's errand, if ever there was one.

Josh Klinghoffer drummed on John Frusciante's "A Sphere in the Heart of Silence" album.

i thought he drummed for PJ when matt was out with covid. maybe i'm wrong? i also like his added percussion with matt so i hope he can continue that

[oneway23]

I would personally prefer if he were nowhere near the band, but, as I said, if they permit him to stick around, what am I going to do about it?

[oasisfan35]

I would personally prefer if he were nowhere near the band, but, as I said, if they permit him to stick around, what am I going to do about it?

[VinylGuy]

lol it's been a year.

You can't be serious.

And yes, I do think it's important we remember that Josh Klinghoffer killed a guy.

serious about what? didn't he kill the guy last summer? how long does your anguish last for a person you don't know?

what is important about remembering josh klinghoffer accidentally killed someone? it sounds tragic from his perspective, too. bringing it up constantly is weird, even for RM's standards of weird.

Spenno is probably the only one obsessed with what happened.

[96583UP]

i am disappointed that Josh didn't do jail time

the video looked pretty clear he was staring at his phone, for a long time, while executing a turn

there should probably be some consequences for that level of stupidity

as a deterrent for future actions like it

[96583UP]

It’s amazing how many of you go down these paths. Eddie sounded great on this last cycle and probably even the cycle before it. They should continue to play hard rock, but they should also pick a new drummer and let it influence their sound and come back with something fresh. They have had two excellent albums in a row and this gives them an opportunity to grow on that while coming up with something very different. Whatever that is, I just hope it’s as inspired.

Ed doesn't want to grow, Ed wants control

Matt did Ed's bidding

They all do Ed's bidding

this makes it difficult to have a groove drummer

they start driving the band

that makes Ed angrrrry

[96583UP]

Let's take a look at some drummers who are connected to the band:

Dave A: Will not happen. Even if there's was some opening Im afraid he's not in shape to tour and do 2.5 hour shows. A three minute YouTube video is not prove that he still got it. Sure, he still has the skills and clicked for PJ's music in 92. But it's 2025 now. I mean, look at how fit Matt C looks for a 62-year old. And all speculations aside, the physical part is probably the mean reason he quit.

Jack Irons: Will not happen. See above. This is a physical hard job. Jack realized in 1998 what Matt realized in 2025.

Dave Krusen: Probably not. Looks great and seems to be in great shape. But I don't think he has the power that is needed for the current band.

Matt Chamberlain: Was already their drummer in 1991. Seems to be on very good terms with Stone. Was a Loosegroove artist in the 90s and has reconnected with Stone on Painted Shield. Also drummed on Jeff's latest solo album. Replaced Matt Cam in Soundgarden before. Has proven to be more than able. Out of all their previous drummers this has to be the best pick by FAR.

In 1994 they went for Jack Irons. Who was Eddie's pick to be the drummer for PJ. They all had one pick that was tried.

Richard Stuverud: Jeff's pick in 1994. Has worked with Jeff ever since. Is a powerhouse of a drummer and seems to be a really fun guy. Did one show with PJ and sounded great. But the big question here is also physical. Some years younger that the other guys, but is he fit enough for touring and live shows? He will probably be considered.

Chris Friel: Mike's pick in 1994. One of Mike's best friends. But drums at a more amateur level nowadays. Will probably not be considered.

Josh Freese: Stone's pick in 1994. Another Loosegroove artist who apparently is well connected to Stone. Just got fired from the Foo's. Was he already approached since PJ knew about Matt leaving months ago?? Probably not. But he will be considered.

And some other connected drummers.

Zak Starkey: Ed's was his best man at his wedding and just got fired from the Who. Could be interesting but personal I don't think he would be a good fit. Is the exact opposite from Matt Cam and would somewhat struggle with that work. I mean, he was fired from the Who for overplaying. From the Who!!

Brad Wilk: Played with Ed in San Diego bands before PJ or Rage even existed. Was tried for PJ in 1991 after they fired Krusen. Really interesting choice. Seems to be in great shape now. Could be a really interesting choice. Rage is really done now. So yeah.... Dont think he's as good as Chamberlain, but maybe he will be considered.

The questions remains if any of the strong contenders here want to do it. I mean, Matt Cam probably wanted the life that Krist Novaselic has now. Some peace and quiet. Taking trips with your wife and enjoy family time. But still do some local bands and minor tours. Maybe Brad Wilk just wants the same. Chamberlain and Freese are seasoned pro's who live for this. Those are probably the front runners out of the ones I mentioned here. Chamberlain would be the best pick here.

But PJ also need to start thinking about where to go from here. I always thought Matt Cam would be their final drummer. They will probably record some more records (not many) and will do touring as long as they can/want. But if they want to go for another 10-15 years and become a touring act in their seventies than they should also consider a younger drummer. Someone who is in his 40s now and will beat the shit out of them for the next ten years.

this was a pretty great summary

i would add that I think Jeff may have mentioned in a respectful way that he had no chemistry with Brad Wilk when he demoed with them back in the day ... I would not picture that having changed at this point ...

[Ello Sailor]

Lots of "Matt Cameron was never my friend" going on in here. Fuckin' turncoats. Traitors!

[96583UP]

My honest opinion is I don't think they should keep playing hard rock songs anymore, at least Eddie shouldn't. His voice isn't up to the task. And so they might as well break up, unless they want to stick to the more mellow songs. This is a good excuse to call it quits, go solo, you can sing within your range and energy-level that way. But that's just my opinion. If you guys somehow still enjoy hearing him strain his voice like that, more power to you.

The idea of them scaling things back and doing primarily shows like Benaroya, Bridge School, etc., would be a dream come true to me, and in theory it would open up a whole new world of potential drummers. I don't expect it to happen, and ultimately agree that they should do whatever they want, but sit-down shows where they do songs like "Off He Goes" and "All Or None" with a drummer that has more of a jazz or country/folk background is something I'd be really excited about.

this is the mature PJ I, and many others, have wanted for the last 10+ years. but alas, too much Fixin' was afoot

[Birds in Hell]

Brad Wilk: Played with Ed in San Diego bands before PJ or Rage even existed. Was tried for PJ in 1991 after they fired Krusen. Really interesting choice. Seems to be in great shape now. Could be a really interesting choice. Rage is really done now. So yeah.... Dont think he's as good as Chamberlain, but maybe he will be considered.

If you want a preview of what Wilk would sound like playing Why Go, the opening seconds of this video are a pretty good representation:

[96583UP]

sick video

he is a different kind of beast than most