INTO THE VOID: A thread for discussion of Black Sabbath.

Ms Harmless · Post by **Ms Harmless** » Fri July 18, 2025 10:47 pm

LoathedVermin72 wrote:wtf, Bill Ward is one of the greats!

drumming in general was less developed as an artform, it's not just about him; John Bonham was much tighter, but that's alright, I don't think it's drums Sabbath are known for pushing forward

LoathedVermin72 · Post by **LoathedVermin72** » Sat July 19, 2025 12:26 am

Ms Harmless wrote:drumming in general was less developed as an artform

I think Max Roach might have something to say about this

Ms Harmless · Post by **Ms Harmless** » Sat July 19, 2025 8:59 am

LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:drumming in general was less developed as an artform
I think Max Roach might have something to say about this

which is not to say that there weren't drummers who had it more developed than others

Ms Harmless · Post by **Ms Harmless** » Sat July 19, 2025 9:02 am

the context of my statement was rock / metal drumming ("in general")

emanon · Post by **emanon** » Sun July 20, 2025 10:46 pm

Ms Harmless wrote:listening to the debut right now

it's great, even if I have to accept that the drumming is sloppy in places

Damn - and he was on my shortlist for Cameron replacements, too.

joostone · Post by **joostone** » Tue July 22, 2025 6:02 pm

RIP Ozzy

https://news.sky.com/story/ozzy-osbourn ... w-13400248

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity- ... k-35599958

LoathedVermin72 · Post by **LoathedVermin72** » Tue July 22, 2025 6:05 pm

What a gift that they got the final show in when they did. RIP to a legend.

Ms Harmless · Post by **Ms Harmless** » Tue July 22, 2025 6:06 pm

glad he got to do his show, RIP Birmingham's finest

VinylGuy · Post by **VinylGuy** » Tue July 22, 2025 6:13 pm

Very sad. So happy he got to do that show.

wease · Post by **wease** » Tue July 22, 2025 8:27 pm

Apparently Matt, Kim and Ben were advertised as playing but schedules wouldn’t allow them to make the trip.

Simple Torture · Post by **Simple Torture** » Tue July 22, 2025 8:31 pm

LetMeSleep · Post by **LetMeSleep** » Tue July 22, 2025 10:36 pm

Damn. Glad he got a final show and got to see so many friends.

I met him backstage in the late 90s. Had a photo (lost along with other things). He was shattered after the gig and barely present. But oh my what a show.

RIP and Up The Villa

VinylGuy · Post by **VinylGuy** » Tue July 22, 2025 11:27 pm

Ill listen to Reunion, the 1997 live album.

bart · Post by **bart** » Tue July 22, 2025 11:47 pm

Saw him with sabbath at ozzfest 99, glad I got to at least once.

i got bugs · Post by **i got bugs** » Wed July 23, 2025 1:37 am

Was thinking.. my top 15 bs or oo

1 NIB
2 planet caravan
3 after forever
4 sweet leaf
5 war pigs
6 crazy train
7 children of the grave
8 fairies wear boots
9 solitude
10 black sabbath
11 snowblind
12 paranoid
13 the wizard
14 goodbye to romance
15 supernaut

Ms Harmless · Post by **Ms Harmless** » Thu July 24, 2025 12:02 pm

so continuing my Black Sabbath deep dive, I'm not in love with "Iron Man" as a track but other than that I did find Paranoid to be a remarkably consistent and experimental listen, and the drums are really levelled up, what a fab album! looking forward to trying album 3 tonight

Ms Harmless · Post by **Ms Harmless** » Thu July 24, 2025 12:31 pm

is "Sweet Leaf" the original Stoner Doom song?

Ello Sailor · Post by **Ello Sailor** » Thu July 24, 2025 5:54 pm

Ms Harmless wrote:is "Sweet Leaf" the original Stoner Doom song?

I think so.

VinylGuy · Post by **VinylGuy** » Thu July 24, 2025 10:38 pm

Ms Harmless wrote:is "Sweet Leaf" the original Stoner Doom song?

its such a good song. Yeah, it has the elements there for sure.

VinylGuy · Post by **VinylGuy** » Mon July 28, 2025 7:40 pm

VinylGuy wrote:Ill listen to Reunion, the 1997 live album.

this is really cool. Dirty Woman sounds awesome. Iommi channels some Kim Thayil right there

Red Mosquito

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