Marvel: Thunderbolts* (2025)

[Mecca]

pff what a pussy

I thought about death a lot

[VinylGuy]

[wease]

Finally got to see this yesterday. Enjoyed it. A lot. Yes it had some problems but the overall whole overcame those.

The film obviously took place after CA:BNW but the jump afterwards indicates Sam has been working for a while to rebuild the Avengers. Getting really excited for the last batch of movies coming.

[Stickman]

I just read that "1 year later" post credit scene is actually a scene from Doomsday. The first thing the Russos filmed on set.

[wease]

The FF ship HAS to somehow be at the end of their movie, tho.

[Peeps]

the post credit scene was shot in the FF set but i havent seen where its part of the movie. since it pretty much spoils the end of the FF movie there is a lot of conjecture about who is actually in the ship.


one theory that stands to reason is it is RDJs Doom. then the FF make it to battle world (616) via franklin

[wease]

the post credit scene was shot in the FF set but i havent seen where its part of the movie. since it pretty much spoils the end of the FF movie there is a lot of conjecture about who is actually in the ship.


one theory that stands to reason is it is RDJs Doom. then the FF make it to battle world (616) via franklin

I didn’t mean specifically the New Avengers part. Just the ship coming to the 616

[VinylGuy]

It was a cool scene

[wease]

And Florence Pugh is hands down one of the absolute most beautiful creatures on this planet.

[Mecca]

And Florence Pugh is hands down one of the absolute most beautiful creatures on this planet.

She is what I believe kids these days are calling “a baddie”

[VinylGuy]

And Florence Pugh is hands down one of the absolute most beautiful creatures on this planet.

gorgeous yeah, and talented. I love her.

[Rangi Guy]

Never did take the kids to see this, but going tonight with a mate

[lvc]

Wow. They really put a lot of fight scenes in Inside Out 3.

David Harbour was pretty good, but he was only allowed to hit two notes. Julia Louis Dreyfus was a little uneven (some of her more expositional line deliveries were almost like she just wanted to not be in the movie). Florence Pugh did her best but the script required inhuman feats from her character (and I'm not talking about the fighting). Everybody else (even Bucky who was he supposed to be the leader?) felt like window dressing/plot devices.

Overall, I'm a little tired of script writers needing to plug in an after school special to the story. Getting some kind of therapy session from a mass, mass media corporation that really only wants to rake in your money is something I can't dissociate enough to fully enjoy. And it's pretty difficult to hit the emotional beats needed to get Florence Pugh from "I just shove the void down so I don't kill myself" to "don't shove the void down, hug somebody instead" when you've got 5-10% of the screen time to do so in between mustache twirling machinations and adrenaline-fueled ass whooping.

I'm writing myself into my own feelings here. My son and I were talking on the way home from the theater about pre- and post-Thanos Marvel movies and he brought up how there were single-hero movies in the early days. I think that might get to my issue above. You had 2 or 3 single-hero movies for each Avenger (except the woman because, you know, equality is secondary to bottom line). So you had significantly more character development to earn any emotional beats in later movies. Now they're dropping characters into ensembles after they had one supporting role and expecting to pull off all the same pathos. It just doesn't work that way. So the entire MCU has gone from feeling like blockbusters that were trying to still be art to straight up assembly-line manufacture. I don't know if that's a solvable problem for them without taking some risks and box office deficit to build a new set of characters from the ground up again.

Also, I'm way tired of Marvel movies not being able to stop talking about themselves. How many times do we need someone to say, "welp, no Avengers coming this time, homies"?

[spike]

I liked this one. Guess I’ll have to see the new F4 now.

[spike]

It’s kinda funny how JLD and Harbour are just kinda reprising their personas from Veep and Stranger Things. I guess that’s how casting works sometimes.

[spike]

Honorable mention to Wyatt Russell as well.

[Peeps]

Wow. They really put a lot of fight scenes in Inside Out 3.

David Harbour was pretty good, but he was only allowed to hit two notes. Julia Louis Dreyfus was a little uneven (some of her more expositional line deliveries were almost like she just wanted to not be in the movie). Florence Pugh did her best but the script required inhuman feats from her character (and I'm not talking about the fighting). Everybody else (even Bucky who was he supposed to be the leader?) felt like window dressing/plot devices.

Overall, I'm a little tired of script writers needing to plug in an after school special to the story. Getting some kind of therapy session from a mass, mass media corporation that really only wants to rake in your money is something I can't dissociate enough to fully enjoy. And it's pretty difficult to hit the emotional beats needed to get Florence Pugh from "I just shove the void down so I don't kill myself" to "don't shove the void down, hug somebody instead" when you've got 5-10% of the screen time to do so in between mustache twirling machinations and adrenaline-fueled ass whooping.

I'm writing myself into my own feelings here. My son and I were talking on the way home from the theater about pre- and post-Thanos Marvel movies and he brought up how there were single-hero movies in the early days. I think that might get to my issue above. You had 2 or 3 single-hero movies for each Avenger (except the woman because, you know, equality is secondary to bottom line). So you had significantly more character development to earn any emotional beats in later movies. Now they're dropping characters into ensembles after they had one supporting role and expecting to pull off all the same pathos. It just doesn't work that way. So the entire MCU has gone from feeling like blockbusters that were trying to still be art to straight up assembly-line manufacture. I don't know if that's a solvable problem for them without taking some risks and box office deficit to build a new set of characters from the ground up again.

Also, I'm way tired of Marvel movies not being able to stop talking about themselves. How many times do we need someone to say, "welp, no Avengers coming this time, homies"?

it wasnt really forcing a after school special into the story so as much as following the comics.

i was a little shocked that they wrote the Sentry as a true addict and not just some cheap weed addict. in the comics he got his powers by thinking the serum was something to get him high as he was going through withdrawls. before the serum he wasnt right mentally and the powers only exasperated that fact.

[lvc]

Wow. They really put a lot of fight scenes in Inside Out 3.

David Harbour was pretty good, but he was only allowed to hit two notes. Julia Louis Dreyfus was a little uneven (some of her more expositional line deliveries were almost like she just wanted to not be in the movie). Florence Pugh did her best but the script required inhuman feats from her character (and I'm not talking about the fighting). Everybody else (even Bucky who was he supposed to be the leader?) felt like window dressing/plot devices.

Overall, I'm a little tired of script writers needing to plug in an after school special to the story. Getting some kind of therapy session from a mass, mass media corporation that really only wants to rake in your money is something I can't dissociate enough to fully enjoy. And it's pretty difficult to hit the emotional beats needed to get Florence Pugh from "I just shove the void down so I don't kill myself" to "don't shove the void down, hug somebody instead" when you've got 5-10% of the screen time to do so in between mustache twirling machinations and adrenaline-fueled ass whooping.

I'm writing myself into my own feelings here. My son and I were talking on the way home from the theater about pre- and post-Thanos Marvel movies and he brought up how there were single-hero movies in the early days. I think that might get to my issue above. You had 2 or 3 single-hero movies for each Avenger (except the woman because, you know, equality is secondary to bottom line). So you had significantly more character development to earn any emotional beats in later movies. Now they're dropping characters into ensembles after they had one supporting role and expecting to pull off all the same pathos. It just doesn't work that way. So the entire MCU has gone from feeling like blockbusters that were trying to still be art to straight up assembly-line manufacture. I don't know if that's a solvable problem for them without taking some risks and box office deficit to build a new set of characters from the ground up again.

Also, I'm way tired of Marvel movies not being able to stop talking about themselves. How many times do we need someone to say, "welp, no Avengers coming this time, homies"?

it wasnt really forcing a after school special into the story so as much as following the comics.

i was a little shocked that they wrote the Sentry as a true addict and not just some cheap weed addict. in the comics he got his powers by thinking the serum was something to get him high as he was going through withdrawls. before the serum he wasnt right mentally and the powers only exasperated that fact.

I admit I'm not a big comic reader, but I can see that the format would be far more conducive to this type of story than the movies. The separation between text and image is much cleaner so you can have actual narration that provides more nuanced look at a character's interior.

The movies would have to go full voiceover to even attempt this (which, in a Marvel movie, would at least be different if not interesting). But to execute that type of story well on film you need a lot more show than tell and Marvel movies use up all their "show" on action set pieces.

[epilogue]

I watched this on a plane and thought it was a blast.