BBC Lord of the Flies

[RockPusher]

I've watched three of the four episodes and am really digging it. The acting is superb. The pacing is weird and slow but I like it. Everything feels kind of classic foreign cinema to me, including the incredibly strange score by the guy who did White Lotus.

[Ms Harmless]

[Ms Harmless]

wizard show chums

[spike]

This cautionary tale is assigned in elementary school, as a tool to reel in the child mind before the teens hit and there is no hope. No interest in this story now.

[spike]

Though I suppose society’s general behavior as of late calls for this to be put out there again, as an easily digested mini series.

[Simple Torture]

Sucks to your ass-mar.

[Ms Harmless]

apparently this has been bought by Netflix US, so you old muckers will be able to have a ganders on it soon

[daft twat]

apparently this has been bought by Netflix US, so you old muckers will be able to have a ganders on it soon

I have my ways, and I just watched all 4 episodes over two days. I was so excited when I saw the brilliant visual a few weeks ago of the choir in their togs meeting the other boys on the beach. Hard to imagine a more disappointing adaptation than this.

I’m sure Ralph being brown will annoy the anti-wokes since Golding describes him as fair-haired, but that shit doesn’t matter. If book purists are upset, they’ll also be mad that Jack doesn’t have red hair and freckles and Piggy is just chubby, not corpulent.

What this gets the most wrong is Simon, the most important character in the book. He’s the Christ figure whom the Beast points out likes everybody, even specifically naming Jack. Here, Simon is given a backstory with Jack to emphasize his distaste for him. His encounter with the Beast in this adaptation is an ineffectual whispered conversation rather than a menacing discussion with the Devil, and he never discovers the dead parachutist. Hell, he never even utters the most important line in the whole book: “Maybe it’s only us.” That’d be like doing Of Mice and Men and cutting Candy telling George, “I should have shot my own dog.”

This adaptation also barely gives Roger screen time, instead making Maurice (or Morris, as it’s pronounced in this) Jack’s right hand man. Roger and Samneric are basically nonexistent until the last 20 minutes of the final episode.

I was hoping for some background characterization not in the book, but what they came up with added nothing except for the scene of Jack when the plane was going down. What they flat-out changed made no sense either, especially

Spoiler: show

Piggy not dying immediately and being swept out to sea

.

What did they get right?
Jack. He doesn’t look like Golding describes him, but he was pretty much perfect.
The location is beautiful and I liked some of the slower moments where nature took center stage.
The music was fine, if forgettable.

Little else, really. The cgi pigs and the elaborate body paint were distracting. Jack looked like Papa Emeritus from Ghost half the time. For as much shit as the 90s Balthasar Getty movie gets, it gets waaaaay more right than this.

[Ms Harmless]

apparently this has been bought by Netflix US, so you old muckers will be able to have a ganders on it soon

I have my ways, and I just watched all 4 episodes over two days. I was so excited when I saw the brilliant visual a few weeks ago of the choir in their togs meeting the other boys on the beach. Hard to imagine a more disappointing adaptation than this.

I’m sure Ralph being brown will annoy the anti-wokes since Golding describes him as fair-haired, but that shit doesn’t matter. If book purists are upset, they’ll also be mad that Jack doesn’t have red hair and freckles and Piggy is just chubby, not corpulent.

What this gets the most wrong is Simon, the most important character in the book. He’s the Christ figure whom the Beast points out likes everybody, even specifically naming Jack. Here, Simon is given a backstory with Jack to emphasize his distaste for him. His encounter with the Beast in this adaptation is an ineffectual whispered conversation rather than a menacing discussion with the Devil, and he never discovers the dead parachutist. Hell, he never even utters the most important line in the whole book: “Maybe it’s only us.” That’d be like doing Of Mice and Men and cutting Candy telling George, “I should have shot my own dog.”

This adaptation also barely gives Roger screen time, instead making Maurice (or Morris, as it’s pronounced in this) Jack’s right hand man. Roger and Samneric are basically nonexistent until the last 20 minutes of the final episode.

I was hoping for some background characterization not in the book, but what they came up with added nothing except for the scene of Jack when the plane was going down. What they flat-out changed made no sense either, especially

Spoiler: show

Piggy not dying immediately and being swept out to sea

.

What did they get right?
Jack. He doesn’t look like Golding describes him, but he was pretty much perfect.
The location is beautiful and I liked some of the slower moments where nature took center stage.
The music was fine, if forgettable.

Little else, really. The cgi pigs and the elaborate body paint were distracting. Jack looked like Papa Emeritus from Ghost half the time. For as much shit as the 90s Balthasar Getty movie gets, it gets waaaaay more right than this.

daft twat!

tbf, you remember the book way better than I do; I love the concept but apart from that was approaching it as a new thing, so I wasn't difficult to please

[RockPusher]

What this gets the most wrong is Simon, the most important character in the book. He’s the Christ figure whom the Beast points out likes everybody, even specifically naming Jack. Here, Simon is given a backstory with Jack to emphasize his distaste for him.

Like MsH, it's been a while since I've read the book, but I definitely *got* the Christ figure vibes, the Simon liking everyone, and the special relationship between Simon and Jack.

His encounter with the Beast in this adaptation is an ineffectual whispered conversation rather than a menacing discussion with the Devil, and he never discovers the dead parachutist. Hell, he never even utters the most important line in the whole book: “Maybe it’s only us.” That’d be like doing Of Mice and Men and cutting Candy telling George, “I should have shot my own dog.”

The parachutist stuff was way to sparse and confusing in this adaptation, but I swear I remember his saying "Maybe it's only us." Perhaps it was said by Ralph instead?

This adaptation also barely gives Roger screen time, instead making Maurice (or Morris, as it’s pronounced in this) Jack’s right hand man. Roger and Samneric are basically nonexistent until the last 20 minutes of the final episode.

Agreed, but I attribute this to making it a character study in four parts, one for each of the main characters.