Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Mine · Post by **Mine** » Tue November 05, 2013 9:27 pm

harmless wrote:
I have some sympathy with that argument. But if you're going down that road, you could argue that basically every song in the world is "catchy" as long as it gives you an eargasm, which basically ends all debate on it.

I agree but every argument about music has a similar fate when taken to the extreme.

harmless · Post by **harmless** » Tue November 05, 2013 10:00 pm

Mine wrote:
harmless wrote:
I have some sympathy with that argument. But if you're going down that road, you could argue that basically every song in the world is "catchy" as long as it gives you an eargasm, which basically ends all debate on it.
I agree but every argument about music has a similar fate when taken to the extreme.

Indeed.

hlniv · Post by **hlniv** » Tue November 05, 2013 10:04 pm

So, then....

Pearl Jam went for the moneygrab in 2005 because they wanted commercial success through writing songs that pleased the fanbase following the post-Yield years of debatable new artistic expression and a tiring political stance.

Is that right?

McParadigm · Post by **McParadigm** » Tue November 05, 2013 10:06 pm

harmless · Post by **harmless** » Tue November 05, 2013 10:08 pm

hlniv wrote:So, then....

Pearl Jam went for the moneygrab in 2005 because they wanted commercial success through writing songs that pleased the fanbase following the post-Yield years of debatable new artistic expression and a tiring political stance.

Is that right?

I'm sure IlluminEddie will want to quibble with the details, but that's basically it yeah.

hlniv · Post by **hlniv** » Tue November 05, 2013 10:13 pm

harmless wrote:
hlniv wrote:So, then....

Pearl Jam went for the moneygrab in 2005 because they wanted commercial success through writing songs that pleased the fanbase following the post-Yield years of debatable new artistic expression and a tiring political stance.

Is that right?
I'm sure IlluminEddie will want to quibble with the details, but that's basically it yeah.

OK good. Glad that's settled

BurtReynolds · Post by **BurtReynolds** » Tue November 05, 2013 10:25 pm

I disagree!

Post by **stip** » Tue November 05, 2013 11:36 pm

BurtReynolds wrote:I disagree!

Oh noes! Who will settle this?!

Post by **Sgt. Crackpot** » Wed November 06, 2013 1:30 am

stip wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I disagree!
Oh noes! Who will settle this?!

There shall be a battle, to the death....

tragabigzanda · Post by **tragabigzanda** » Wed November 06, 2013 4:00 am

pearl jam sucks now

Strat · Post by **Strat** » Wed November 06, 2013 4:03 am

ITS NOT MATTS FAULT THE BAND PLAYS FASTER

I am listening to an ed solo show right now (fuck you kat) and ed is sprinting his way through Thumbing My way

Ugh, I hate that the temp shit is poured onto Matt.

Sorry, carry on.

tragabigzanda · Post by **tragabigzanda** » Wed November 06, 2013 4:21 am

pearl jam sucks now

Strat · Post by **Strat** » Wed November 06, 2013 4:23 am

tragabigzanda wrote:
Strat wrote:ITS NOT MATTS FAULT THE BAND PLAYS FASTER

I am listening to an ed solo show right now (fuck you kat) and ed is sprinting his way through Thumbing My way

Ugh, I hate that the temp shit is poured onto Matt.

Sorry, carry on.
Fair enough, but surely you agree that he plays the mellow songs too hard?

Like what? I would say he comes crashing in to Wishlist far too heavy but the only reason it is noticeable is because of how quiet it is on Yield. I would say he is fucking perfect on of the girl, pendulum and more that i haven't taken the past few seconds to think about...

hankholetsgo · Post by **hankholetsgo** » Wed November 06, 2013 4:41 am

Strat wrote:ITS NOT MATTS FAULT THE BAND PLAYS FASTER

I am listening to an ed solo show right now (fuck you kat) and ed is sprinting his way through Thumbing My way

Ugh, I hate that the temp shit is poured onto Matt.

Sorry, carry on.

This. It's certainly not Matt.

Strat · Post by **Strat** » Wed November 06, 2013 4:45 am

Also, its not ED. Its the band. Its playing live. its being drunk. Its being in a band for a million years. And....its FINE.

Seacrest out.

verb_to_trust · Post by **verb_to_trust** » Wed November 06, 2013 4:51 am

This made for some great toilet reading. Thanks guys.

Birds in Hell · Post by **Birds in Hell** » Wed November 06, 2013 4:55 am

Strat wrote:Also, its not ED. Its the band. Its playing live. its being drunk. Its being in a band for a million years. And....its FINE.

Seacrest out.

I'm pretty much onboard with Strat here.

Once you know songs inside and out, it's natural to end up playing them faster, especially in front of an enthusiastic audience. I'd say that's pretty commonplace for most rock bands.

digster · Post by **digster** » Wed November 06, 2013 5:12 am

I don't think Matt's taking the band anywhere they don't want to go, but I do think a byproduct of the way the dynamics they play live have changed since he came onboard is that they run through songs considerably faster. I mean, they were playing them faster than studio versions in the 90's, too, but I'd think it wasn't to the degree they do it with Matt.

tragabigzanda · Post by **tragabigzanda** » Wed November 06, 2013 11:39 am

pearl jam sucks now

harmless · Post by **harmless** » Wed November 06, 2013 12:29 pm

digster wrote:I don't think Matt's taking the band anywhere they don't want to go, but I do think a byproduct of the way the dynamics they play live have changed since he came onboard is that they run through songs considerably faster. I mean, they were playing them faster than studio versions in the 90's, too, but I'd think it wasn't to the degree they do it with Matt.

Matt didn't play all the songs too fast in the first few years of him joining the band. LO2L sounds perfectly fine. He even plays "Even Flow" pretty much right.

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