Matt Cameron really fucked up, guys

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Which band has Matt actually been actively with for longer.


Pearl Jam is 15 years at this point. And 5 albums.

Soundgarden is 4 albums plus whatever they did before badmotorfinger (are those full length records?). I'm not sure about the years.
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stip wrote:Which band has Matt actually been actively with for longer.


Pearl Jam is 15 years at this point. And 5 albums.

Soundgarden is 4 albums plus whatever they did before badmotorfinger (are those full length records?). I'm not sure about the years.
'Are those full length records?' Come on, stip. ;)
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SG with Matt is 1986 (I believe) - 1997 + 2010 - present

so it's basically tied re: number of years.
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DeLima wrote:
stip wrote:Which band has Matt actually been actively with for longer.


Pearl Jam is 15 years at this point. And 5 albums.

Soundgarden is 4 albums plus whatever they did before badmotorfinger (are those full length records?). I'm not sure about the years.
'Are those full length records?' Come on, stip. ;)
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DeLima wrote:
stip wrote:Which band has Matt actually been actively with for longer.


Pearl Jam is 15 years at this point. And 5 albums.

Soundgarden is 4 albums plus whatever they did before badmotorfinger (are those full length records?). I'm not sure about the years.
'Are those full length records?' Come on, stip. ;)

No, I seriously don't know them. I heard a few of the songs from them on the GH and had no desire to seek them out. That wasn't a hostile comment. I thought at least one was an EP.
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Superunknown is really the only soundgarden record I like a lot from start to finish. Other than that they've always been a band that produced a number of songs I loved and a whole bunch of stuff I just didn't give a shit about. Alice in Chains (who I liked more) was the same way. This was different than Pearl Jam, Nirvana, or the Trees where I was usually interested in listening to everything.
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He would be on crack to pick Soundgarden over Pearl Jam at this point.
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stip wrote:
DeLima wrote:
stip wrote:Which band has Matt actually been actively with for longer.


Pearl Jam is 15 years at this point. And 5 albums.

Soundgarden is 4 albums plus whatever they did before badmotorfinger (are those full length records?). I'm not sure about the years.
'Are those full length records?' Come on, stip. ;)

No, I seriously don't know them. I heard a few of the songs from them on the GH and had no desire to seek them out. That wasn't a hostile comment. I thought at least one was an EP.
I know it wasn't hostile. I was just amused. There's 2 LPs and 2 EPs. Before you completely write off pre-BMF SG, check out Incessant Mace off Ultramega OK.
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This news doesn't surprise me at all. Pearl Jam is his main gig, by far. Soundgarden is his side project.
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If you guys are interested here's a list of Cameron's SG writing credits I put together as part of a debate going on in PJ chat.

SG music writing credits for MC:

Ultramega OK:

He Didn't

Badmotorfinger:

Jesus Christ Pose (co-credit)
Room a Thousand Years Wide
Drawing Flies

Superunknown:

Mailman
Limo Wreck
Fresh Tendrils (music and lyrics)

Down on the Upside:

Rhinosaur
Applebite

King Animal:

Eyelid's Mouth
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"I will be taking 2014 off from Soundgarden touring due to prior commitments promoting "Lightning Bolt" with my brothers in Pearl Jam and the desire to have more time at home with my family. I am trying to balance the many twists and turns of my awesome music career. This is temporary. I am still an active member of Soundgarden. Chris, Ben, Kim and I are in the process of finding the perfect substitute for the upcoming Soundgarden dates in 2014.

Thank you all for listening and the Years of Support!

Loudest of Love.
Matt Cameron"

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LuNY wrote:"I will be taking 2014 off from Soundgarden touring due to prior commitments promoting "Lightning Bolt" with my brothers in Pearl Jam and the desire to have more time at home with my family. I am trying to balance the many twists and turns of my awesome music career. This is temporary. I am still an active member of Soundgarden. Chris, Ben, Kim and I are in the process of finding the perfect substitute for the upcoming Soundgarden dates in 2014.

Thank you all for listening and the Years of Support!

Loudest of Love.
Matt Cameron"

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no, see, he fucked up.
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DeLima wrote:If you guys are interested here's a list of Cameron's SG writing credits I put together as part of a debate going on in PJ chat.

SG music writing credits for MC:

Ultramega OK:

He Didn't

Badmotorfinger:

Jesus Christ Pose (co-credit)
Room a Thousand Years Wide
Drawing Flies

Superunknown:

Mailman
Limo Wreck
Fresh Tendrils (music and lyrics)

Down on the Upside:

Rhinosaur
Applebite

King Animal:

Eyelid's Mouth
and how does this compare to pearl jam writing credits.

Drawing Flies, Fresh Tendrils and Eyelid's Mouth are good songs.
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stip wrote:
DeLima wrote:If you guys are interested here's a list of Cameron's SG writing credits I put together as part of a debate going on in PJ chat.

SG music writing credits for MC:

Ultramega OK:

He Didn't

Badmotorfinger:

Jesus Christ Pose (co-credit)
Room a Thousand Years Wide
Drawing Flies

Superunknown:

Mailman
Limo Wreck
Fresh Tendrils (music and lyrics)

Down on the Upside:

Rhinosaur
Applebite

King Animal:

Eyelid's Mouth
and how does this compare to pearl jam writing credits.

Drawing Flies, Fresh Tendrils and Eyelid's Mouth are good songs.
how are you leaving off mailman and limo wreck? those are upper-tier SG songs by any measure
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They are all friends, why is everyone so dramatic? I hope its Josh Freese too.


"due to prior commitments"

Its called being pro.
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LuNY wrote:They are all friends, why is everyone so dramatic? I hope its Josh Freese too.


"due to prior commitments"

Its called being pro.
Josh would be cool...Barret Martin too...who else? Matt Chamberlin? Ben has played with him before...
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LuNY wrote:They are all friends, why is everyone so dramatic? I hope its Josh Freese too.


"due to prior commitments"

Its called being pro.
i'm just yanking yer chain.

the argument is just about which band he's more essential to/has contributed more of value to
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VinylGuy wrote:
LuNY wrote:They are all friends, why is everyone so dramatic? I hope its Josh Freese too.


"due to prior commitments"

Its called being pro.
Josh would be cool...Barret Martin too...who else? Matt Chamberlin? Ben has played with him before...
I'd prefer they went with someone young and new. If they're going to use a known drummer I'd nominate the guy from Tool.
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DeLima wrote:
LuNY wrote:They are all friends, why is everyone so dramatic? I hope its Josh Freese too.


"due to prior commitments"

Its called being pro.
i'm just yanking yer chain.

the argument is just about which band he's more essential to/has contributed more of value to
I would say his value is equal in both bands. We are witnessing one of the best drummers of all time, yes its happening.
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Josh Freese, if he wants to.
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