Song of the Moment: Lightning Bolt

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Rate Lightning Bolt

5 Stars
34
24%
4 Stars
59
42%
3 Stars
22
16%
2 Stars
8
6%
1 Star
12
9%
Betterman (live)
4
3%
 
Total votes: 139

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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
harmless wrote:Why does this outro end so fucking early? It's the best part. :(
Yes it is
This is still the biggest grower of the album for me other than "Infallible."
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harmless wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
harmless wrote:Why does this outro end so fucking early? It's the best part. :(
Yes it is
This is still the biggest grower of the album for me other than "Infallible."
Infallible took a listen or two to fall in love with, but lightning bolt took quite a while, but its up near the top now for sure
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This is my most hated fade in the history of fades
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stip wrote:This is my most hated fade in the history of fades
Life wasted is pretty bad, but lightning bolt is a much better song, so that makes it easy to agree with you
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Plus we at least got most of life wasted, and have the rough mix
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Pearl Jam sucks at fade outs. In addition to the two y'all are talking about (LB and LW), Rival's pisses me off too. I'd love for that song to go on about another 20 seconds or so.
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darth_vedder wrote:Pearl Jam sucks at fade outs. In addition to the two y'all are talking about (LB and LW), Rival's pisses me off too. I'd love for that song to go on about another 20 seconds or so.
I don't understand the thought process behind fade outs, they seem to always be bad
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:Pearl Jam sucks at fade outs. In addition to the two y'all are talking about (LB and LW), Rival's pisses me off too. I'd love for that song to go on about another 20 seconds or so.
I don't understand the thought process behind fade outs, they seem to always be bad
Yeah, it's a tough call. I used to be completely anti-fade out. I have come around a bit, but most of the time the really bother me. Like right when the band seems to be getting into a cool groove / jam, fade out. I guess on the flip-side, a cold / hard ending doesn't always fit either, so in that case, a fade may be more appropriate.
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darth_vedder wrote:Pearl Jam sucks at fade outs. In addition to the two y'all are talking about (LB and LW), Rival's pisses me off too. I'd love for that song to go on about another 20 seconds or so.
I think I like how rival ends. The evil carnival should fade into your imagination pretty quickly
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darth_vedder wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:Pearl Jam sucks at fade outs. In addition to the two y'all are talking about (LB and LW), Rival's pisses me off too. I'd love for that song to go on about another 20 seconds or so.
I don't understand the thought process behind fade outs, they seem to always be bad
Yeah, it's a tough call. I used to be completely anti-fade out. I have come around a bit, but most of the time the really bother me. Like right when the band seems to be getting into a cool groove / jam, fade out. I guess on the flip-side, a cold / hard ending doesn't always fit either, so in that case, a fade may be more appropriate.
I love a cold, hard ending.
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darth_vedder wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:Pearl Jam sucks at fade outs. In addition to the two y'all are talking about (LB and LW), Rival's pisses me off too. I'd love for that song to go on about another 20 seconds or so.
I don't understand the thought process behind fade outs, they seem to always be bad
Yeah, it's a tough call. I used to be completely anti-fade out. I have come around a bit, but most of the time the really bother me. Like right when the band seems to be getting into a cool groove / jam, fade out. I guess on the flip-side, a cold / hard ending doesn't always fit either, so in that case, a fade may be more appropriate.
Fades can be appropriate, but only after you finish your thought.
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harmless wrote:I love a cold, hard ending.
What are the best endings in the catalog?

Rearviewmirror jumps to mind for me. Last Exit too. I actually really love way the organ lingers and there are those stray notes on guitar being picked out seemingly randomly at the end of Better Man too.
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those are two excellent choices. the way eddie soars off in the distance at the end of alive is pretty marvelous.


I like the little disgusted growl right at the end of Comatose.

The little gasp right before the cold stop at the end of The End is pretty nice

The way FoN takes the shine off the uplifting final moments of the song
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I love that unexpected burst of an outro that they tacked onto the end of Blood.
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Lament wrote:I love that unexpected burst of an outro that they tacked onto the end of Blood.
So choice.

I'm a big fan of the unexpected-switch-to-minor-chord-followed-by-cascading-delay-munch ending to Leatherman.
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Now THAT is an excellent pick. It's like the last few seconds almost betray the rest of the song, but it absolutely works.
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Lament wrote:
harmless wrote:I love a cold, hard ending.
What are the best endings in the catalog?

Rearviewmirror jumps to mind for me. Last Exit too. I actually really love way the organ lingers and there are those stray notes on guitar being picked out seemingly randomly at the end of Better Man too.
The "shades go down" crawl to the close on Daughter is nice, too.
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harmless wrote:The "shades go down" crawl to the close on Daughter is nice, too.
Daughter is a fade out, right?
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god help me I'm going to go listen to leatherman for the ending. I don't know the last time I heard that song from start to finish
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stip wrote:god help me I'm going to go listen to leatherman for the ending. I don't know the last time I heard that song from start to finish
I'm thrilled!
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