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Chris_H_2 wrote:
numbers wrote:there are no good catchers in MLB right now, it's not that outrageous of a deal.
That's absolutely no reason to give three years and that much money to a catcher who won't give you more than 110 games 1/3 into the contract.
How many catchers in MLB give you 110+ games on a consistent basis?
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numbers wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
numbers wrote:there are no good catchers in MLB right now, it's not that outrageous of a deal.
That's absolutely no reason to give three years and that much money to a catcher who won't give you more than 110 games 1/3 into the contract.
How many catchers in MLB give you 110+ games on a consistent basis?
For a little perspective, 9 out of 15 teams in the NL had catchers who gave them 110+ games last year. None of those catchers was older than 32, and the average age was 28.
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
numbers wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
numbers wrote:there are no good catchers in MLB right now, it's not that outrageous of a deal.
That's absolutely no reason to give three years and that much money to a catcher who won't give you more than 110 games 1/3 into the contract.
How many catchers in MLB give you 110+ games on a consistent basis?
For a little perspective, 9 out of 15 teams in the NL had catchers who gave them 110+ games last year. None of those catchers was older than 32, and the average age was 28.
How many of those 9 did it the year before?
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Over/under 60 HR for Prince in Arlington?
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elliseamos wrote:Over/under 60 HR for Prince in Arlington?
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elliseamos wrote:Over/under 60 HR for Prince in Arlington?
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I'm amazed any team would take on that contract, especially after his postseason "performance"
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Now that Fielder is gone, the Tigers are guaranteed to win the WS next year, right Zeppe?
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numbers wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
numbers wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
numbers wrote:there are no good catchers in MLB right now, it's not that outrageous of a deal.
That's absolutely no reason to give three years and that much money to a catcher who won't give you more than 110 games 1/3 into the contract.
How many catchers in MLB give you 110+ games on a consistent basis?
For a little perspective, 9 out of 15 teams in the NL had catchers who gave them 110+ games last year. None of those catchers was older than 32, and the average age was 28.
How many of those 9 did it the year before?
Most of them. But you seem to be proving my point. Why do you pay the guy more money than most of the catchers that are younger and did give their teams 110+ games behind the plate?
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Adrian Beltre next years MVP?
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
numbers wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
numbers wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
numbers wrote:there are no good catchers in MLB right now, it's not that outrageous of a deal.
That's absolutely no reason to give three years and that much money to a catcher who won't give you more than 110 games 1/3 into the contract.
How many catchers in MLB give you 110+ games on a consistent basis?
For a little perspective, 9 out of 15 teams in the NL had catchers who gave them 110+ games last year. None of those catchers was older than 32, and the average age was 28.
How many of those 9 did it the year before?
Most of them. But you seem to be proving my point. Why do you pay the guy more money than most of the catchers that are younger and did give their teams 110+ games behind the plate?
To me, catching is about game calling. As long as you can be a competent major league hitter(over .220) that's good enough. It's hard to judge catchers by their offensive numbers. The 3rd year for Ruiz was to ensure you'll get him for the first two of that contract.
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numbers wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
numbers wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
numbers wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
numbers wrote:there are no good catchers in MLB right now, it's not that outrageous of a deal.
That's absolutely no reason to give three years and that much money to a catcher who won't give you more than 110 games 1/3 into the contract.
How many catchers in MLB give you 110+ games on a consistent basis?
For a little perspective, 9 out of 15 teams in the NL had catchers who gave them 110+ games last year. None of those catchers was older than 32, and the average age was 28.
How many of those 9 did it the year before?
Most of them. But you seem to be proving my point. Why do you pay the guy more money than most of the catchers that are younger and did give their teams 110+ games behind the plate?
To me, catching is about game calling. As long as you can be a competent major league hitter(over .220) that's good enough. It's hard to judge catchers by their offensive numbers. The 3rd year for Ruiz was to ensure you'll get him for the first two of that contract.
I think having a productive offensive catcher in the NL puts you at so much more of an advantage than other NL teams that don't because you're already dealing with a wasted spot in your lineup by having your pitcher bat. I know there are slim pickings for those catchers, but I'd be worried as a Phillies fan where this contract is going to get you in a year.
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so what's Brian McCann going to get?
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numbers wrote:there are no good catchers in MLB right now, it's not that outrageous of a deal.
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5 and 85 for McCann? Good luck with that deal
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Jhonny Peralta is apparently worth 16.25 million?!!! a year?!!

4/65
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I think I'm at the point where I can't wait to see what some stupid team pays Ellsbury in the next couple of weeks
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@SkitchP wrote:Jhonny Peralta is apparently worth 16.25 million?!!! a year?!!

4/65

Now its being reported as 4/52. Which is still crazy but not as bad.
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@SkitchP wrote:Jhonny Peralta is apparently worth 16.25 million?!!! a year?!!

4/65

Now its being reported as 4/52. Which is still crazy but not as bad.
But there are very few old, non-HR-hitting, terrible defensive shortstops coming off a PED suspension on the market . . .
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MattA75 wrote:I think I'm at the point where I can't wait to see what some stupid team pays Ellsbury in the next couple of weeks
Yup. Ells will dial it back once he gets his money. Just a hunch.
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