Carter should never be where he was, never. No need to be.TBAMTS wrote:You're really blaming Carter on that play? I thought it was all Welker's fault. Either should have caught it or waived it off sooner.Green Habit wrote:If it wasn't for bonehead plays from Rahim Moore and Tony Carter, that could have been 5-6. Also, most of those games would have to be road games.Coach wrote:I made the case earlier here that a cold weather Super Bowl in NYC will affect the outcome. Last night was further evidence of this distinct possibility:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--did-c ... 33449.html
Manning is now 3-8 lifetime in games where the temperature was below 32 degrees at kickoff, according to Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com. In those games he now has 13 touchdowns and 14 interceptions, nothing close to his better than 2 to 1 TDs-to-interceptions (472 to 216) career ratio.
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I can't blame Carter there.
First, he's not even a typical special teams guy, so he's out there in a tough situation really because of injuries. Second, there was another Bronco right next to him, so I don't think they were out of position. That's all on the returner; he has to be letting the guys in front of him know what he's doing and where the ball is--it's not very easy to downfield block and keep track of a ball above you and a guy behind you.
First, he's not even a typical special teams guy, so he's out there in a tough situation really because of injuries. Second, there was another Bronco right next to him, so I don't think they were out of position. That's all on the returner; he has to be letting the guys in front of him know what he's doing and where the ball is--it's not very easy to downfield block and keep track of a ball above you and a guy behind you.
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No, no need to be, if he's waived off in time to get out of the way. If not, he's there to block or else his return man gets killed.red calzolaio wrote:Carter should never be where he was, never. No need to be.TBAMTS wrote:You're really blaming Carter on that play? I thought it was all Welker's fault. Either should have caught it or waived it off sooner.Green Habit wrote:If it wasn't for bonehead plays from Rahim Moore and Tony Carter, that could have been 5-6. Also, most of those games would have to be road games.Coach wrote:I made the case earlier here that a cold weather Super Bowl in NYC will affect the outcome. Last night was further evidence of this distinct possibility:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--did-c ... 33449.html
Manning is now 3-8 lifetime in games where the temperature was below 32 degrees at kickoff, according to Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com. In those games he now has 13 touchdowns and 14 interceptions, nothing close to his better than 2 to 1 TDs-to-interceptions (472 to 216) career ratio.
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Maybe he should get killed for fielding a punt inside the 15.Chris_H_2 wrote:No, no need to be, if he's waived off in time to get out of the way. If not, he's there to block or else his return man gets killed.red calzolaio wrote:Carter should never be where he was, never. No need to be.TBAMTS wrote:You're really blaming Carter on that play? I thought it was all Welker's fault. Either should have caught it or waived it off sooner.Green Habit wrote:If it wasn't for bonehead plays from Rahim Moore and Tony Carter, that could have been 5-6. Also, most of those games would have to be road games.Coach wrote:I made the case earlier here that a cold weather Super Bowl in NYC will affect the outcome. Last night was further evidence of this distinct possibility:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--did-c ... 33449.html
Manning is now 3-8 lifetime in games where the temperature was below 32 degrees at kickoff, according to Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com. In those games he now has 13 touchdowns and 14 interceptions, nothing close to his better than 2 to 1 TDs-to-interceptions (472 to 216) career ratio.
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I thought (inside) the 10 yd line was the "rule"?red calzolaio wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:No, no need to be, if he's waived off in time to get out of the way. If not, he's there to block or else his return man gets killed.red calzolaio wrote:Carter should never be where he was, never. No need to be.TBAMTS wrote:You're really blaming Carter on that play? I thought it was all Welker's fault. Either should have caught it or waived it off sooner.Green Habit wrote:If it wasn't for bonehead plays from Rahim Moore and Tony Carter, that could have been 5-6. Also, most of those games would have to be road games.Coach wrote:I made the case earlier here that a cold weather Super Bowl in NYC will affect the outcome. Last night was further evidence of this distinct possibility:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--did-c ... 33449.html
Manning is now 3-8 lifetime in games where the temperature was below 32 degrees at kickoff, according to Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com. In those games he now has 13 touchdowns and 14 interceptions, nothing close to his better than 2 to 1 TDs-to-interceptions (472 to 216) career ratio.
Maybe he should get killed for fielding a punt inside the 15.
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Welker was/is the "safe" punt guy. He was in there to make sure that didn't happen. He's gotta run up to the 15 and make that catch. At the very least he has to make the call before he did. I still love Wes, but it's on him.
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You're right.Fuck You Jobu wrote:I thought (inside) the 10 yd line was the "rule"?red calzolaio wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:No, no need to be, if he's waived off in time to get out of the way. If not, he's there to block or else his return man gets killed.red calzolaio wrote:Carter should never be where he was, never. No need to be.TBAMTS wrote:You're really blaming Carter on that play? I thought it was all Welker's fault. Either should have caught it or waived it off sooner.Green Habit wrote:If it wasn't for bonehead plays from Rahim Moore and Tony Carter, that could have been 5-6. Also, most of those games would have to be road games.Coach wrote:I made the case earlier here that a cold weather Super Bowl in NYC will affect the outcome. Last night was further evidence of this distinct possibility:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--did-c ... 33449.html
Manning is now 3-8 lifetime in games where the temperature was below 32 degrees at kickoff, according to Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com. In those games he now has 13 touchdowns and 14 interceptions, nothing close to his better than 2 to 1 TDs-to-interceptions (472 to 216) career ratio.
Maybe he should get killed for fielding a punt inside the 15.
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Welker, of course, isn't 100% innocent, but I still think Carter put himself in an bad situation.
On another note, Brandon Browner's probably feeling real stupid right now for not fighting his earlier PED suspension like Richard Sherman did.
On another note, Brandon Browner's probably feeling real stupid right now for not fighting his earlier PED suspension like Richard Sherman did.
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Green Habit wrote:Welker, of course, isn't 100% innocent, but I still think Carter put himself in an bad situation.
On another note, Brandon Browner's probably feeling real stupid right now for not fighting his earlier PED suspension like Richard Sherman did.
When you say fighting you mean finding a way to legally cheat and then tell everyone how great you are right?
I'm looking forward to his Merriman
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I agree with this too, keeping only the Thanksgiving games.Coach wrote:I've said this before, but it's time to deep six Thursday night football.
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Yup, and I do love the additional third Thanksgiving game.Biff Pocoroba wrote:I agree with this too, keeping only the Thanksgiving games.Coach wrote:I've said this before, but it's time to deep six Thursday night football.
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All of this. They can also keep the kickoff game at the beginning of the season.Coach wrote:Yup, and I do love the additional third Thanksgiving game.Biff Pocoroba wrote:I agree with this too, keeping only the Thanksgiving games.Coach wrote:I've said this before, but it's time to deep six Thursday night football.
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Agreed on that, too.EJ wrote:All of this. They can also keep the kickoff game at the beginning of the season.Coach wrote:Yup, and I do love the additional third Thanksgiving game.Biff Pocoroba wrote:I agree with this too, keeping only the Thanksgiving games.Coach wrote:I've said this before, but it's time to deep six Thursday night football.
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what about the Saturday games when NCAA games go on hiatus?
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That's a good question....I think I'd be fine with leaving those. There aren't too many, and they happen late in the season.elliseamos wrote:what about the Saturday games when NCAA games go on hiatus?
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that's my feeling too, but that's how i felt about thursday games before they got overdone.Coach wrote:That's a good question....I think I'd be fine with leaving those. There aren't too many, and they happen late in the season.elliseamos wrote:what about the Saturday games when NCAA games go on hiatus?
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Yup, me too.elliseamos wrote:that's my feeling too, but that's how i felt about thursday games before they got overdone.Coach wrote:That's a good question....I think I'd be fine with leaving those. There aren't too many, and they happen late in the season.elliseamos wrote:what about the Saturday games when NCAA games go on hiatus?
On a separate subject, have you checked out the latest Power Rankings? The Top Five:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings
2013 Power Rankings: Week 13
1.Seahawks
2.Saints
3.Broncos
4.Patriots
5.Panthers
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i don't know, the saints seem a little overrated.Coach wrote:Yup, me too.elliseamos wrote:that's my feeling too, but that's how i felt about thursday games before they got overdone.Coach wrote:That's a good question....I think I'd be fine with leaving those. There aren't too many, and they happen late in the season.elliseamos wrote:what about the Saturday games when NCAA games go on hiatus?
On a separate subject, have you checked out the latest Power Rankings? The Top Five:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings
2013 Power Rankings: Week 13
1.Seahawks
2.Saints
3.Broncos
4.Patriots
5.Panthers
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I agree with the Top Five here, but it's interesting to see that Carolina is ranked below NE (despite its win over NE), while NE is ranked below the Saints and Broncos, two teams NE beat.elliseamos wrote:i don't know, the saints seem a little overrated.Coach wrote:Yup, me too.elliseamos wrote:that's my feeling too, but that's how i felt about thursday games before they got overdone.Coach wrote:That's a good question....I think I'd be fine with leaving those. There aren't too many, and they happen late in the season.elliseamos wrote:what about the Saturday games when NCAA games go on hiatus?
On a separate subject, have you checked out the latest Power Rankings? The Top Five:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings
2013 Power Rankings: Week 13
1.Seahawks
2.Saints
3.Broncos
4.Patriots
5.Panthers
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If I remember correctly from what I read, the Saturday games were axed because it was just too difficult to get people to watch games during the holidays when they're usually at parties with friends and family. The current thinking is that Thursday games are going to provide better ratings. If they're right, then as much as many of us dislike those games, they aren't going away.Coach wrote:That's a good question....I think I'd be fine with leaving those. There aren't too many, and they happen late in the season.elliseamos wrote:what about the Saturday games when NCAA games go on hiatus?