11/24/2013 Los Angeles II setlist thread
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Sounds amazing. Ed's interpretive dance is also amazing, adds character.
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First Jeff, now Ed. RIP PEARL JAM
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^^^ that was groovy.
I think Oceans > Low Light > Present Tense is the perfect three-song opener ever.
I think Oceans > Low Light > Present Tense is the perfect three-song opener ever.
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Low Light works hella better than Nothingman as an early song.evenslow wrote:^^^ that was groovy.
I think Oceans > Low Light > Present Tense is the perfect three-song opener ever.
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Been trying to avoid the LA threads.
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Yeah I liked that.
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I agree with this, I noticed the same things. When there was that problem in the pit and they started the song Ed started giving the finger to Matt and was like Fuck You!! And Matt yelled something back at him. I think he then gave the finger to Stone too but I might be wrong. At one point I felt like Stone looked sick of the tough guy CEO persona Ed was using on him. There were a few other moments he was clearly mad you didn't mention when they screwed up a song or something. He still put on a hell of a show and I think this drama was slightly fabricated to give the show some edge and excitement. Maybe I'm wrong, either way it was a bit weird to see Ed disrespect Matt. He later praised Matt, maybe he felt bad.AndySlash wrote:Strange, strange show.
Ed got pissed about something during Sirens and he was not the same after that. The rest of the show he was huffing and puffing around, calling several audibles (he did the throat cutting gesture at the end of Blood to signal the band that that was it for the set before quickly leaving the stage) or directing the band, and just in general projecting an attitude of much displeasure.
First signs of a problem were Ed clearly audibling to Small Town. After Even Flow, he noted a fan had been pulled from the GA pit due to an emergency but was doing fine. I'm not sure what happened during Sirens, but it seemed like there was tech issue with his guitar. He held it behind him for his tech George (right?) to grab and as the tech got there he just dropped it. Think Lebron dropping his warmups even though the ballboy was standing right next to him waiting to take them from him. At one point shortly after a beach ball got kicked up on stage and he angrily kicked it off. After they returned for the encore (I think), he mentioned something about being amateur and that he/they would be professional. During Betterman, he clearly motioned to Matt to end the song instead of going into the SIFL bit, but Matt missed or ignored it and Ed was visibly angry. Even After Hours had some venom to it despite his heartfelt intro. And for some songs, he seemed to be just going through the motions and trying to get them over with.
This attitude was a complete 180 from his demeanor in San Diego where he and the band were all smiles all the time. It was just bizarre watching this tantrum play out and not really understanding what was going on. From my perspective it cast a shadow over the entire show. I heard several people saying it was a great show on the way out, but it made me wonder how much they were paying attention to the drama playing out on stage. This crowd seemed to be a hits crowd, and weren't nearly as enthusiastic as the crowd the previous night, but I didn't think it was a horrible crowd. If Ed was upset with the crowd, it seemed mostly unwarranted. Ed may have been upset at George, because after the Sirens thing, I didn't see him the rest of the night. If that was the case, Ed really let it bother him the rest of the show.
That said, there were several highlights: Love Reign, No Way, the Pink Floyd stuff (Interstellar intro to Corduroy, ABITW2 tag, Mother), Blood, Immortality, and Breath. Lightning Bolt (the song) was really, really good tonight, too.
But the story of this show is "what the fuck was up with Ed?"
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ooo, maybe they can keep this tension going and make a great album
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Re: 11/24/2013 Los Angeles II setlist thread
here's the setlist photo. you can see where things went to shit.


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that's one of the more edited stylists I've ever seen.
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With Stone's hair you have to have a stylist that editsBurtReynolds wrote:that's one of the more edited stylists I've ever seen.
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I'm no lip reader but I can swear I heard Matt yell at Ed "Go fuck your mother you cocksucker!"Rat wrote:I agree with this, I noticed the same things. When there was that problem in the pit and they started the song Ed started giving the finger to Matt and was like Fuck You!! And Matt yelled something back at him. I think he then gave the finger to Stone too but I might be wrong. At one point I felt like Stone looked sick of the tough guy CEO persona Ed was using on him. There were a few other moments he was clearly mad you didn't mention when they screwed up a song or something. He still put on a hell of a show and I think this drama was slightly fabricated to give the show some edge and excitement. Maybe I'm wrong, either way it was a bit weird to see Ed disrespect Matt. He later praised Matt, maybe he felt bad.AndySlash wrote:Strange, strange show.
Ed got pissed about something during Sirens and he was not the same after that. The rest of the show he was huffing and puffing around, calling several audibles (he did the throat cutting gesture at the end of Blood to signal the band that that was it for the set before quickly leaving the stage) or directing the band, and just in general projecting an attitude of much displeasure.
First signs of a problem were Ed clearly audibling to Small Town. After Even Flow, he noted a fan had been pulled from the GA pit due to an emergency but was doing fine. I'm not sure what happened during Sirens, but it seemed like there was tech issue with his guitar. He held it behind him for his tech George (right?) to grab and as the tech got there he just dropped it. Think Lebron dropping his warmups even though the ballboy was standing right next to him waiting to take them from him. At one point shortly after a beach ball got kicked up on stage and he angrily kicked it off. After they returned for the encore (I think), he mentioned something about being amateur and that he/they would be professional. During Betterman, he clearly motioned to Matt to end the song instead of going into the SIFL bit, but Matt missed or ignored it and Ed was visibly angry. Even After Hours had some venom to it despite his heartfelt intro. And for some songs, he seemed to be just going through the motions and trying to get them over with.
This attitude was a complete 180 from his demeanor in San Diego where he and the band were all smiles all the time. It was just bizarre watching this tantrum play out and not really understanding what was going on. From my perspective it cast a shadow over the entire show. I heard several people saying it was a great show on the way out, but it made me wonder how much they were paying attention to the drama playing out on stage. This crowd seemed to be a hits crowd, and weren't nearly as enthusiastic as the crowd the previous night, but I didn't think it was a horrible crowd. If Ed was upset with the crowd, it seemed mostly unwarranted. Ed may have been upset at George, because after the Sirens thing, I didn't see him the rest of the night. If that was the case, Ed really let it bother him the rest of the show.
That said, there were several highlights: Love Reign, No Way, the Pink Floyd stuff (Interstellar intro to Corduroy, ABITW2 tag, Mother), Blood, Immortality, and Breath. Lightning Bolt (the song) was really, really good tonight, too.
But the story of this show is "what the fuck was up with Ed?"
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