Since when was bro's seeing Pearl Jam live 'something worthwhile'? Since when was buying fucking dog collars with Pearl Jam's name on them 'worthwhile'? Since when was installing a fireman's pole in your house 'worthwhile'? Ed encourages sycophancy, the 10 Club encourages sycophancy, unless it involves a woman wanting a body part signed (her 'mosquito bites')? How many zillions of fans have done this, and rather than saying 'Uh, maybe you shouldn't do that, lady, I wouldn't advise it,' he angrily says 'Mosquito bites!' There's no two ways about it, the guy was an absolute cock that night.Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:I don't follow your logic. All it says is that Eddie is disappointed in a young girl who is possibly underage flashing her tits when she should be doing something worthwhile. And then he threatens to shit on her head.Mecca wrote:It still reveals something about Eddie and his attitude towards women as evidenced by the recent woman getting kicked out of the pit.
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If Ed would've been like "Titties! I'll drink to that!" 95% of the guys who were like "Yeah, Ed, tell that bitch off!" would have been all "I LOVE TITTIES! PEARL JAMMMMMM!"
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This might be a better t-shirt idea than your other one if you include the tour dates on the back.Lament wrote:"I LOVE TITTIES! PEARL JAMMMMMM!"
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Yeah, its pretty ridiculous... ed is pro-choice for women...unless it mildly conveniences him... then its wrong to do what you want... major divergence in his personality and his persona... only a matter of time until they come completely polarised, separate and he is reduced to a dribbling mess... would support his apparent moodiness on this tour as reality crashes with his skewed perception of the world revolving around him(for further reading of this detachment read: Swallowed Whole by PJ)... You wont hear this on record as B'OB has been brought in to add window dressing to the music and also mash up Ed's lunch for him (ironically an Avocado sandwich... hence the nonsensical cover to the self-titled album... and the point of his soul splitting)... You really see the poignancy of 'Future Days' when you understand its about 2 split personality realising there is no middle ground and they have to live together in one body until the end.... and hence the jarring piano intro which sounds like the piano plonking of someone being dropped off at a mental facility... the irony of it all...Ed is dragged into the building with a chain attached to the Backspacer dog collar he is wearing. Sadharmless wrote:Since when was bro's seeing Pearl Jam live 'something worthwhile'? Since when was buying fucking dog collars with Pearl Jam's name on them 'worthwhile'? Since when was installing a fireman's pole in your house 'worthwhile'? Ed encourages sycophancy, the 10 Club encourages sycophancy, unless it involves a woman wanting a body part signed (her 'mosquito bites')? How many zillions of fans have done this, and rather than saying 'Uh, maybe you shouldn't do that, lady, I wouldn't advise it,' he angrily says 'Mosquito bites!' There's no two ways about it, the guy was an absolute cock that night.Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:I don't follow your logic. All it says is that Eddie is disappointed in a young girl who is possibly underage flashing her tits when she should be doing something worthwhile. And then he threatens to shit on her head.Mecca wrote:It still reveals something about Eddie and his attitude towards women as evidenced by the recent woman getting kicked out of the pit.
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Underneath it will be Stickman, but instead of raising his arms to express that he's alive, he'll be doing so to cup a pair of breasts.broken iris wrote:This might be a better t-shirt idea than your other one if you include the tour dates on the back.Lament wrote:"I LOVE TITTIES! PEARL JAMMMMMM!"
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I don't make threatsBurtReynolds wrote:but haven't we all threatened to shit on a woman's head one time or another?
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Would you like to check your baggage at the gate?harmless wrote:Since when was bro's seeing Pearl Jam live 'something worthwhile'? Since when was buying fucking dog collars with Pearl Jam's name on them 'worthwhile'? Since when was installing a fireman's pole in your house 'worthwhile'? Ed encourages sycophancy, the 10 Club encourages sycophancy, unless it involves a woman wanting a body part signed (her 'mosquito bites')? How many zillions of fans have done this, and rather than saying 'Uh, maybe you shouldn't do that, lady, I wouldn't advise it,' he angrily says 'Mosquito bites!' There's no two ways about it, the guy was an absolute cock that night.Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:I don't follow your logic. All it says is that Eddie is disappointed in a young girl who is possibly underage flashing her tits when she should be doing something worthwhile. And then he threatens to shit on her head.Mecca wrote:It still reveals something about Eddie and his attitude towards women as evidenced by the recent woman getting kicked out of the pit.
Also, as WcT said, Ed was still being a dick. He was providing context for where that dickishness came from. Maybe it came from the fact that he is a cold, black hearted, money loving, greedy, worse than hitler, mysoginsitic bastard. Or maybe he was having a shitty night and lashed out in an inappropriately dickish way. Which, of course, you or I or anyone else has never done.
But ignore this. I'm just a pearl jam apologist.
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Lament wrote:If Ed would've been like "Titties! I'll drink to that!" 95% of the guys who were like "Yeah, Ed, tell that bitch off!" would have been all "I LOVE TITTIES! PEARL JAMMMMMM!"
Exactly. The girl only did it because this.
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I think you're missing my point in your quickness to apologise for Pearl Jam, stip. My point is this and only this: flashing one's body part and saying 'Sign this!' is a pretty well-known fan sentiment in rock music. Countless comedies have parodied it. This was all the woman was doing, flashing her tits. I was not saying anything was *wrong* with the other fan actions that I listed, only that they are the actions of devoted fans. They are fine actions, but equally pointless actions. BEING A FAN IS NEEDLESS ENTERTAINMENT. So is flashing one's tits, sometimes. Or pulling moonies out of car windows, or whatever bro's do these days. For fuck sake, let's not tell off women for flashing their tits. If we really care about it, let's boycott Mardi Gras. The fact that we won't says a lot about how men want to prioritise their time; berate woman fans of rock bands for flashing their tits, but fap to their porn every night!stip wrote:Would you like to check your baggage at the gate?harmless wrote:Since when was bro's seeing Pearl Jam live 'something worthwhile'? Since when was buying fucking dog collars with Pearl Jam's name on them 'worthwhile'? Since when was installing a fireman's pole in your house 'worthwhile'? Ed encourages sycophancy, the 10 Club encourages sycophancy, unless it involves a woman wanting a body part signed (her 'mosquito bites')? How many zillions of fans have done this, and rather than saying 'Uh, maybe you shouldn't do that, lady, I wouldn't advise it,' he angrily says 'Mosquito bites!' There's no two ways about it, the guy was an absolute cock that night.Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:I don't follow your logic. All it says is that Eddie is disappointed in a young girl who is possibly underage flashing her tits when she should be doing something worthwhile. And then he threatens to shit on her head.Mecca wrote:It still reveals something about Eddie and his attitude towards women as evidenced by the recent woman getting kicked out of the pit.
Also, as WcT said, Ed was still being a dick. He was providing context for where that dickishness came from. Maybe it came from the fact that he is a cold, black hearted, money loving, greedy, worse than hitler, mysoginsitic bastard. Or maybe he was having a shitty night and lashed out in an inappropriately dickish way. Which, of course, you or I or anyone else has never done.
But ignore this. I'm just a pearl jam apologist.
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Also, 'context'? The context WCT offered was that it was an unusual gig in a small club. Or something, I don't even know. Regardless, I don't even know how that's relevant to anything.
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Ed was already pissed off so it was fine.
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I think Eddie was being a dick. No one is saying otherwise here. You are arguing with the ghosts of bros.
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I am not a pearl jam apologist. I just hate reading the same boring rants.
On the plus side for everyone else, the only thing I hate more than reading this shit is responding to it. I'm down to like 10 posts in an 8 page thread.
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really has nothing at all to do with the point you made. And you lead with it. So forgive me for thinking that this was an RM 'Pearl Jam doesn't make music I like as much I used to so let me start savaging them for the dumbest nitpicky shit.'Since when was bro's seeing Pearl Jam live 'something worthwhile'? Since when was buying fucking dog collars with Pearl Jam's name on them 'worthwhile'? Since when was installing a fireman's pole in your house 'worthwhile'? Ed encourages sycophancy, the 10 Club encourages sycophancy
I am not a pearl jam apologist. I just hate reading the same boring rants.
On the plus side for everyone else, the only thing I hate more than reading this shit is responding to it. I'm down to like 10 posts in an 8 page thread.
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harmless wrote:Ed was already pissed off so it was fine.
No, that's not what he said. That's what YOU said, because for whatever Harmless reason you have you will currently feel better if Eddie is a raging misogynist. He said that Eddie was in a bad mood, and pretty clearly implied that a person who is not normally/naturally a dick is more likely to be a dick when they are in a bad mood. Which is the case for, you know, most people.
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Context: My dog is dying, and was up all night with a horrible hacking cough that is a sign of his heart failing. So I am more likely to be a dick this morning than usual.
If any RMers want to show me their tits it might cheer me up.
If any RMers want to show me their tits it might cheer me up.
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FFS, man. What I lead with there is *everything* to do with the point I'm making, and nothing to do with Pearl Jam's music (do I have to keep reminding you that I like most of Lightning Bolt?). WCT said the following:stip wrote:I think Eddie was being a dick. No one is saying otherwise here. You are arguing with the ghosts of bros.
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really has nothing at all to do with the point you made. And you lead with it. So forgive me for thinking that this was an RM 'Pearl Jam doesn't make music I like as much I used to so let me start savaging them for the dumbest nitpicky shit.'Since when was bro's seeing Pearl Jam live 'something worthwhile'? Since when was buying fucking dog collars with Pearl Jam's name on them 'worthwhile'? Since when was installing a fireman's pole in your house 'worthwhile'? Ed encourages sycophancy, the 10 Club encourages sycophancy
I am not a pearl jam apologist. I just hate reading the same boring rants.
On the plus side for everyone else, the only thing I hate more than reading this shit is responding to it. I'm down to like 10 posts in an 8 page thread.
"...Eddie is disappointed in a young girl who is possibly underage flashing her tits when she should be doing something worthwhile."
She should be doing something worthwhile.
So what I did was to list all of the 'worthwhile' (i.e. equally pointless, ultimately) things that male fans of Pearl Jam have been known to do. Why is flashing your tits not 'worthwhile' compared to the totally inane (though fine, if you're into that) hobby of emptying your pockets for Pearl Jam merchandise? None of it is worthwhile. Who gives a fuck?
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I don't give a fuck if Ed is a raging misogynist, although it's definitely not without the ballpark of reason. However, I believe that the rant he gave that night was absolutely full of raging misogyny. Whether that makes him one now is anyone's guess, but I'm not ruling it out just because I happen to like the band's music. Actually, having devoted most of my life to Pearl Jam fandom makes me even more upset to read these things about Ed berating people in public. Because I'm sorry but I want my favourite bands to be better than that.stip wrote:harmless wrote:Ed was already pissed off so it was fine.
No, that's not what he said. That's what YOU said, because for whatever Harmless reason you have you will currently feel better if Eddie is a raging misogynist. He said that Eddie was in a bad mood, and pretty clearly implied that a person who is not normally/naturally a dick is more likely to be a dick when they are in a bad mood. Which is the case for, you know, most people.
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Anyway, look, it doesn't matter. I've been spending more time away from the forum lately because it does my head in. But enjoy yourselves, guys.
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I guess this makes sense. Your initial response to that awesome Batman San Francisco thing for the kid with cancer was that it was just a way for people without cancer to feel good about themselves. So it stands to reason that one obnoxious drunken rant over a 20+ year career negates a life of supporting woman's issues.harmless wrote:I don't give a fuck if Ed is a raging misogynist, although it's definitely not without the ballpark of reason. However, I believe that the rant he gave that night was absolutely full of raging misogyny. Whether that makes him one now is anyone's guess, but I'm not ruling it out just because I happen to like the band's music..stip wrote:harmless wrote:Ed was already pissed off so it was fine.
No, that's not what he said. That's what YOU said, because for whatever Harmless reason you have you will currently feel better if Eddie is a raging misogynist. He said that Eddie was in a bad mood, and pretty clearly implied that a person who is not normally/naturally a dick is more likely to be a dick when they are in a bad mood. Which is the case for, you know, most people.
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Haha, I like this.stip wrote:You are arguing with the ghosts of bros.
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Yeah that was good.theplatypus wrote:Haha, I like this.stip wrote:You are arguing with the ghosts of bros.