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theplatypus wrote:Also, I'm glad they appear to have fixed this, because lol

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yeah that was pretty brutal as well. Beast looked like a muppet had sex with a castmember from Cats.
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I remember thinking he looked goofy (not as much as the magnet man hat ever does, but). The thing is, bad effects are a minor nuisance in a good story, where they are gut-busting hilarity in a piece of garbage like that wolverine movie or any scene involving a poop man on a rabbit sled.
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I liked Xavier and Magneto, and since they were biggest part of the movie, I thought it was an ok flick. I hated every other character in the movie except maybe Kevin Bacon. The Xmen and the rest of the bad guys were terrible. it's probably not as good as I remember.

If any franchise needs a reboot it's the Xmen. It's too screwed up at this point, but then again the comic is a clusterfuck too.

Or better yet, I always felt X-Men would make a cool tv show. you need time to develop all those characters. characters could enter and leave, you could kill them off or marry them weekly. Lots of fucking and killing. it could be like Game of Thrones.

edit: Plus there's always various factions vying for power, main characters getting killed all the time, groups getting slaughtered, etc. in the comic. I'm liking this idea more and more. someone get me Mr. HBO on the phone.
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BurtReynolds wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Also, I'm glad they appear to have fixed this, because lol

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yeah that was pretty brutal as well. Beast looked like a muppet had sex with a castmember from Cats.

I thought he looked pretty good. I mean, that's kind of what beast looks like isn't it?
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Boris the Bullet Dodger can never be a problem.

The part that murdered me with lulz was the unnecessary Michael Ironside captain bit. I get that they wanted to put "regular" humans in the mix to give the audience an avenue...but we sort of had both Magneto and the Prof as two sides of the same very primal anger. We didnt need the brutal stupidity of those military moments.
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BurtReynolds wrote:I liked Xavier and Magneto, and since they were biggest part of the movie, I thought it was an ok flick. I hated every other character in the movie except maybe Kevin Bacon. The Xmen and the rest of the bad guys were terrible. it's probably not as good as I remember.

If any franchise needs a reboot it's the Xmen. It's too screwed up at this point, but then again the comic is a clusterfuck too.

Our better yet, I always felt X-Men would make a cool tv show. you need time to develop all those characters. characters could enter and leave, you could kill them off or marry them weekly. Lots of fucking and killing. it could be like Game of Thrones.

edit: Plus there's always various factions vying for power, main characters getting killed all the time, groups getting slaughtered, etc. in the comic. I'm liking this idea more and more. someone get me Mr. HBO on the phone.
I agree almost every other character was forgettable in first class, but the movie also made it clear they didn't matter, so that was fine. X-2 may have been the only one that stacked an ensemble cast with characters where you at least kind of cared about most of them
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i liked x-men first class :/
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As a moviegoer with minimal comic history, I hated Cyclops through all 3 movies. Hated him. I think the way they sold him was (if you don't know the source) as a shit head. A comic history probably helps tint or shade that, but looking at it as a person who knew almost nothing going in he was a brick and I'm drowning slowly
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in the first three x-men movies, i really hated storm more than scott, but i at least get what you mean about him - they played too much into the rivalry with wolverine in my own opinion.
storm though - terrible - and not just the character- which they did NOTHING with at all, but the way whatshername played the role really irritated me.

that might be why i enjoyed first class, it was a different set of characters (basically) so i had no touchstones to hold them up against for comparison.

k, i'm going back to my GD hole now. feel free to rip my argument asunder, true comic fans.
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yeah Storm bothered me the most. Cyclops is kind of a douche, but killing him off and leaving Jean Grey and Wolverine together in 3 was pretty terrible from a fan standpoint.
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BurtReynolds wrote:yeah Storm bothered me the most. Cyclops is kind of a douche, but killing him off and leaving Jean Grey and Wolverine together in 3 was pretty terrible from a fan standpoint.
Ive never liked Cyk and having Jean Wolverine together wasnt terrible... they did hook up in the Age of Apocalypse after all.
and btw, Cyk didnt get killed off, all you ever saw was his glasses, no body. "If their aint no body, there aint no body dead" - Wild Bill in Band of Brothers (always loved that line)

Storm was brutal, Halle was given maybe 1 or 2 moments in all 3 movies, and they all happened in X-3 (which most people hate) (chewing Logan out after the danger room, and asking him if hes ready to do what needs to be done before the final fight) But even in the cartoons shes never had a starring role? Its like no one knows how to write her?

I actually like bits of X-3 more than X-2 too, X-2 seemed like Wolverines origins, with other X-members doing things, where X-3 felt more like the X-men working together to stop Magneto.

Wolverine Origins should have been told in a flash back story / him hunting down the Weapon X program in the present / flashing back to what happened in the past to make him Weapon X. Unfortunately they already destroyed the facility in X-2. That would have made Origins a much better story.
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storm and cyclops are both good characters in the comic book (esp. storm) who were horribly horribly underwritten in the films.
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Bryan Singer Is Directing 'X-Men: Apocalypse', and We Probably Know Who's Playing Apocalypse
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December 9, 2013 /

Though this photo of Bryan Singer pretending to frame a helmet is now pushing a decade-and-a-half old, since it remains our best visual indicator that Singer is directing an X-Men movie, today we're going to wring a little more use out of it. Because that's happening again. According to Vulture, Singer will return to the series he started and do his fifth superhero movie with X-Men: Apocalypse, the recently-revealed planned follow-up to Days of Future Past. It's also said that Apocalypse will return to solely focusing on the younger, First Class team, as Fox has recently learned that paying for two Professor Xaviers adds up pretty quick, turning Days of Future Past into the studio's second most-expensive film ever.

FirstShowing, meanwhile, claim that they know how Apocalypse will be introduced and who will play him. So if you want that spoiled for you, continue reading.
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As we well know, Fox and everyone else wants to be all Marvel-style with their superhero franchises. No surprise then that, according to this report, X-Men: Days of Future Past follows Marvel's suit with an after-the-credits sequence teasing what's to come in the next film. In it, apparently Magneto finds himself in a desert diner when something massive crashes outside. He checks it out, and there he finds someone who would seem to be Apocalypse, "described as an 'alien form' who is 'towering, terrifying, with a twisted metal face and dark pits for eyes.'" But this fan-pleasing manifestation of the villain doesn't last long. After explaining "I am your future," he then fuses with Magneto, seemingly leaving Michael Fassbender to the role of central heavy again for the sequel.
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Stickman wrote:Bryan Singer Is Directing 'X-Men: Apocalypse', and We Probably Know Who's Playing Apocalypse
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December 9, 2013 /

Though this photo of Bryan Singer pretending to frame a helmet is now pushing a decade-and-a-half old, since it remains our best visual indicator that Singer is directing an X-Men movie, today we're going to wring a little more use out of it. Because that's happening again. According to Vulture, Singer will return to the series he started and do his fifth superhero movie with X-Men: Apocalypse, the recently-revealed planned follow-up to Days of Future Past. It's also said that Apocalypse will return to solely focusing on the younger, First Class team, as Fox has recently learned that paying for two Professor Xaviers adds up pretty quick, turning Days of Future Past into the studio's second most-expensive film ever.

FirstShowing, meanwhile, claim that they know how Apocalypse will be introduced and who will play him. So if you want that spoiled for you, continue reading.
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As we well know, Fox and everyone else wants to be all Marvel-style with their superhero franchises. No surprise then that, according to this report, X-Men: Days of Future Past follows Marvel's suit with an after-the-credits sequence teasing what's to come in the next film. In it, apparently Magneto finds himself in a desert diner when something massive crashes outside. He checks it out, and there he finds someone who would seem to be Apocalypse, "described as an 'alien form' who is 'towering, terrifying, with a twisted metal face and dark pits for eyes.'" But this fan-pleasing manifestation of the villain doesn't last long. After explaining "I am your future," he then fuses with Magneto, seemingly leaving Michael Fassbender to the role of central heavy again for the sequel.
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scott and logan were always rivals from the get go, way back in Giant Sized #1. that aspect of the movie didnt bother me at all. storm was severely underwritten and completely wasted berrys acting. im convinced that they only added her to have a third big name in the credits.

as i have stated before, i loved all three Xmen films and loved Wolverine Origins right up the end of the movie when they completely fucked over deadpool. i think singer did a most outstanding job of bringing the characters/universe to life.

wolverines bezerker rage in X2 is ever bit as awesome for me as when people first saw christopher reeves fly.
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red calzolaio wrote:
Stickman wrote:Bryan Singer Is Directing 'X-Men: Apocalypse', and We Probably Know Who's Playing Apocalypse
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December 9, 2013 /

Though this photo of Bryan Singer pretending to frame a helmet is now pushing a decade-and-a-half old, since it remains our best visual indicator that Singer is directing an X-Men movie, today we're going to wring a little more use out of it. Because that's happening again. According to Vulture, Singer will return to the series he started and do his fifth superhero movie with X-Men: Apocalypse, the recently-revealed planned follow-up to Days of Future Past. It's also said that Apocalypse will return to solely focusing on the younger, First Class team, as Fox has recently learned that paying for two Professor Xaviers adds up pretty quick, turning Days of Future Past into the studio's second most-expensive film ever.

FirstShowing, meanwhile, claim that they know how Apocalypse will be introduced and who will play him. So if you want that spoiled for you, continue reading.
Spoiler: show
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As we well know, Fox and everyone else wants to be all Marvel-style with their superhero franchises. No surprise then that, according to this report, X-Men: Days of Future Past follows Marvel's suit with an after-the-credits sequence teasing what's to come in the next film. In it, apparently Magneto finds himself in a desert diner when something massive crashes outside. He checks it out, and there he finds someone who would seem to be Apocalypse, "described as an 'alien form' who is 'towering, terrifying, with a twisted metal face and dark pits for eyes.'" But this fan-pleasing manifestation of the villain doesn't last long. After explaining "I am your future," he then fuses with Magneto, seemingly leaving Michael Fassbender to the role of central heavy again for the sequel.
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Im not buying it, and Singer already said Apocalypse is not an alien... not to mention it would be pretty stupid to use Fassbender that way? if you were going that route? use McAvoy, so Fassbender has to save the day as the somewhat good Magneto (like the Age of Apocalypse story) I just dont trust something that literally came out a day after the Apocalypse story was confirmed.
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I just can't get over how much I dislike X-3. Their portrayal of The Phoenix was just stupid. Killing Cyclops at nearly the opening of the movie, stupid. Killing Xavier, stupid.
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Hiring Brett Ratner, stupid.
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Leatherhead wrote:I just can't get over how much I dislike X-3. Their portrayal of The Phoenix was just stupid. Killing Cyclops at nearly the opening of the movie, stupid. Killing Xavier, stupid.
i never saw it.

thanks for the nutshell...definitely won't see it after that. :)
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Xavier dies all the time.
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