Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

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Getaway
42
13%
Mind Your Manners
8
2%
My Father's Son
38
12%
Sirens
23
7%
Lightning Bolt
21
6%
Infallible
38
12%
Pendulum
88
27%
Swallowed Whole
21
6%
Let the Records Play
7
2%
Sleeping By Myself
7
2%
Yellow Moon
32
10%
Future Days
4
1%
 
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Coach wrote:
stip wrote:
stupidmop wrote:What songs were released as b-sides in the past?

I don't know if BoB is stopping them from recording other tracks, Pendulum was a backspacer outtake BoB didn't care for, they just worked on it without him ( and came up with some of the more interesting music they have in a while imo). Didn't Eddie say something about not whoring out b sides once?

Ten: Wash, Footsteps, Yellow Ledbetter, Dirty Frank
Vs: Alone
Vitalogy: out of my mind
No Code: Black Red Yellow, Deadman
Yield: U, leatherman
Binaural: nothing
Riot Act: Down, Save You, Other Side
S/T: Nothing
Backspacer: Nothing
Lightning bolt: nothing
Ten, hands down, wins the best b-sides debate. Thanks Stip.
i think this is when they were writing songs on acid. they should go back to that.
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I really want to hear that electronic music album Ed did around the ST sessions.
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VinylGuy wrote:I really want to hear that electronic music album Ed did around the ST sessions.
i think it was before then, we just didnt find out about it until s/t. s/t is when he got into ayahuasca, judging by his lyrics.
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warehouse wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:I really want to hear that electronic music album Ed did around the ST sessions.
i think it was before then, we just didnt find out about it until s/t. s/t is when he got into ayahuasca, judging by his lyrics.
maybe. Severed Hand´s lyrics hinted a recent past with LSD i guess.
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VinylGuy wrote:
warehouse wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:I really want to hear that electronic music album Ed did around the ST sessions.
i think it was before then, we just didnt find out about it until s/t. s/t is when he got into ayahuasca, judging by his lyrics.
maybe. Severed Hand´s lyrics hinted a recent past with LSD i guess.
severed hand, marker, yellow moon, swallowed whole off the top of my head all have imagery and ideas similar to ayahuasca use. im pretty sure eddie vedder talked about doing it when they first toured south america in like 2005. severed hand is pretty specifically about it, but it think the other songs all have similar themes and ideas tied to it.
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warehouse wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
warehouse wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:I really want to hear that electronic music album Ed did around the ST sessions.
i think it was before then, we just didnt find out about it until s/t. s/t is when he got into ayahuasca, judging by his lyrics.
maybe. Severed Hand´s lyrics hinted a recent past with LSD i guess.
severed hand, marker, yellow moon, swallowed whole off the top of my head all have imagery and ideas similar to ayahuasca use. im pretty sure eddie vedder talked about doing it when they first toured south america in like 2005. severed hand is pretty specifically about it, but it think the other songs all have similar themes and ideas tied to it.
Interesting. I dont consider Marker to have that type of imagery...but yeah, SH and maybe YM too...Actually i havent payed attention to some of the lyrics of the new album, SW being the first example.

What are your thought on Yellow Moon? whats about?
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He said in an interview at the time of release that it was him "imagining" what it would be like to take hallucinogens that he was curious about, but didn't think it was appropriate for a father to be experimenting with. That seems to contradict his claim that he started writing it at the same time as I Am Mine, but it's possible that the lyrics were all written near the time of recording.
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VinylGuy wrote:
warehouse wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
warehouse wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:I really want to hear that electronic music album Ed did around the ST sessions.
i think it was before then, we just didnt find out about it until s/t. s/t is when he got into ayahuasca, judging by his lyrics.
maybe. Severed Hand´s lyrics hinted a recent past with LSD i guess.
severed hand, marker, yellow moon, swallowed whole off the top of my head all have imagery and ideas similar to ayahuasca use. im pretty sure eddie vedder talked about doing it when they first toured south america in like 2005. severed hand is pretty specifically about it, but it think the other songs all have similar themes and ideas tied to it.
Interesting. I dont consider Marker to have that type of imagery...but yeah, SH and maybe YM too...Actually i havent payed attention to some of the lyrics of the new album, SW being the first example.

What are your thought on Yellow Moon? whats about?
i think its about an out-of-body experience, like looking at earth from somewhere between the earth and the moon. i also think its about being able to see into some sort of afterlife without actually dying, the bridge specifically. its like he was shot out of his body far enough to see the parade to the afterlife, but he's not far enough out to go there. this is all stuff people say happens during an ayahuasca trip.

i think marker is more about the day after the trip, and its no coincidence its right after 'severed hand'. its like you've seen part of the potential humans have, and how people fucked it up w/ organized religions.

SW is pretty clearly about tripping imo.
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warehouse wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
warehouse wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
warehouse wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:I really want to hear that electronic music album Ed did around the ST sessions.
i think it was before then, we just didnt find out about it until s/t. s/t is when he got into ayahuasca, judging by his lyrics.
maybe. Severed Hand´s lyrics hinted a recent past with LSD i guess.
severed hand, marker, yellow moon, swallowed whole off the top of my head all have imagery and ideas similar to ayahuasca use. im pretty sure eddie vedder talked about doing it when they first toured south america in like 2005. severed hand is pretty specifically about it, but it think the other songs all have similar themes and ideas tied to it.
Interesting. I dont consider Marker to have that type of imagery...but yeah, SH and maybe YM too...Actually i havent payed attention to some of the lyrics of the new album, SW being the first example.

What are your thought on Yellow Moon? whats about?
i think its about an out-of-body experience, like looking at earth from somewhere between the earth and the moon. i also think its about being able to see into some sort of afterlife without actually dying, the bridge specifically. its like he was shot out of his body far enough to see the parade to the afterlife, but he's not far enough out to go there. this is all stuff people say happens during an ayahuasca trip.

i think marker is more about the day after the trip, and its no coincidence its right after 'severed hand'. its like you've seen part of the potential humans have, and how people fucked it up w/ organized religions.

SW is pretty clearly about tripping imo.

Nice thoughts. I can see that on YM...and i like that idea of Marker being like a continuation to SH.
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McParadigm wrote:He said in an interview at the time of release that it was him "imagining" what it would be like to take hallucinogens that he was curious about, but didn't think it was appropriate for a father to be experimenting with. That seems to contradict his claim that he started writing it at the same time as I Am Mine, but it's possible that the lyrics were all written near the time of recording.
he's full of shit, thats like saying "i have a friend w/ this problem..."

edit: i do remember reading i am mine and severed hand's music were written the same night in some hotel room
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I think it's about getting out of your skull on something and seeing a bunch of shit because you've taken a substance. Then, posing questions and drawing conclusions that you think are really profound but really you're on drugs
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McParadigm wrote:The positive qualities of all Ten outtakes combined is still not enough to compete with Dead Man, according to my very factual and beyond-debate objective data taken from science and only science so you might as well give up.
I can't argue with that.
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warehouse wrote:
Coach wrote:
stip wrote:
stupidmop wrote:What songs were released as b-sides in the past?

I don't know if BoB is stopping them from recording other tracks, Pendulum was a backspacer outtake BoB didn't care for, they just worked on it without him ( and came up with some of the more interesting music they have in a while imo). Didn't Eddie say something about not whoring out b sides once?

Ten: Wash, Footsteps, Yellow Ledbetter, Dirty Frank
Vs: Alone
Vitalogy: out of my mind
No Code: Black Red Yellow, Deadman
Yield: U, leatherman
Binaural: nothing
Riot Act: Down, Save You, Other Side
S/T: Nothing
Backspacer: Nothing
Lightning bolt: nothing
Ten, hands down, wins the best b-sides debate. Thanks Stip.
i think this is when they were writing songs on acid. they should go back to that.
This got me to thinking that a Pearl Jam/Phish show would be really cool. Especially if they collaborated on a few live numbers....
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The solo shows on the tour for the techno album could be amazing
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The fact that he called that album "techno" was already hilarious.
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I picture it being a lot like those Bruce Springsteen early 80s demos when he discovered synth drums sounds but didn't discover how stupid they sounded.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
McParadigm wrote:The positive qualities of all Ten outtakes combined is still not enough to compete with Dead Man, according to my very factual and beyond-debate objective data taken from science and only science so you might as well give up.
I can't argue with that.
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stip wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
McParadigm wrote:The positive qualities of all Ten outtakes combined is still not enough to compete with Dead Man, according to my very factual and beyond-debate objective data taken from science and only science so you might as well give up.
I can't argue with that.
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Someone stick that on a Morgan Freeman meme.
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VinylGuy wrote:The fact that he called that album "techno" was already hilarious.
Agreed. What do you think Ed thinks "techno" music sounds like?
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