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durdencommatyler wrote:Hannah constantly talks about what she wants to write about and what she is writing about. There are entire episodes about it.
What does she want to write about?
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Harry Lime wrote:Naw, I don't even know why I'm trying so hard. I don't care about the characters and their prolems. Life as a 20-something in New York is so hard with relationships & growing up blah blah blah. I'm struggling too but I'm not going to write about it. I don't think it's interesting. To each their own.

But tell me, Dunham's character wants to be a writer, correct? Does her character ever talk about what she wants to write about? The things she wants to say? I think if Dunham wrote about what her character wants to write about, she'd have more interesting material.
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I hope you drink Miller Lite again tonight.
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Harry Lime wrote:I think Leah Dunham should have been more honest. Unless she thinks that the reporter didn't deserve her full indulgence. You also get naked on the show, Dunham, so you can tell everyone that, "Hey, big girls can get naked and feel comfortable on camera too!"

Worthy statement, but why be so coy about it? Or has she explained this before?

My jealousy of Dunham's success still runs deep, and therefore I continue to be infatuated with her. Sorry, Vinylguy
Hey, i was there too..i was bored with her then i watched the entire first season and realized how good she is. Tiny Furniture is also a brilliant movie.
About the naked stuff, she already talked about that subject, pretty much when a new season is starting everyone ask the same: why are you naked if you are fat and ugly??
You know, that was also my first thought and every now and then when she is naked again its like: ok Lena i got your point...but its also true that it reflects a very good side of Hanna´s character. Its there because of the story too.
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Harry Lime wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Hannah constantly talks about what she wants to write about and what she is writing about. There are entire episodes about it.
What does she want to write about?
I'm not sure if you're serious or not. Have you actually watched the show?
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Harry Lime wrote::lol: Judd Apatow calling someone else "offensive". That's funny.

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/judd-apatow-le ... 43887.html
Why is Lena Dunham’s character on “Girls” naked so much?

That question made Dunham and her fellow “Girls” executive producers, Judd Apatow and Jenni Konner, mad at me Thursday during a Television Critics Association panel. Apatow later said my question was sexist, offensive and misogynistic. He asked me to transcribe what I asked and re-read what I asked Dunham, so here it is:

“I don’t get the purpose of all the nudity on the show. By you particularly. I feel like I’m walking into a trap where you say no one complains about the nudity on ‘Game of Thrones,’ but I get why they’re doing it. They’re doing it to be salacious. To titillate people. And your character is often naked at random times for no reason.”

Dunham said she was naked on the show because people are naked sometimes.

“Yeah. It’s because it’s a realistic expression of what it’s like to be alive, I think, and I totally get it. If you are not into me, that’s your problem,” she said.

Huh? But I didn’t say that. The conversation continued its personal turn as Apatow asked if I had a girlfriend.

“Sure,” I said.

“Does she like you?”

“Yeah.”

“Let’s see how she likes you when you quote that with your question and just write the whole question… and tell me how it goes tonight.”

Actually, my girlfriend has wondered about this, too. Here’s why.

“Girls” has more nudity by its lead character than any show, well, ever. But my girlfriend and I don’t understand the reason for it. We’re cool with nudity, and if Dunham wants to be naked, great. I’m not offended by it. I don’t like it or not like it. I just don’t get the artistic reason for it, and want to understand it, because I’m a TV critic.

Later in the panel executive producer Jenni Konner said she didn’t understand why I thought I could “talk to a woman” that way.

Huh? Talk to her like a writer who has made a bold creative decision?

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Dunham left after the panel. But Apatow stuck around, and we talked about my question, which he said was “offensive on its face.”

“You should read it and discuss it with other people,” he told me. “It is very offensive.”

“Is it sexist?” I asked. “Because I would ask the same question –”

“It’s sexist and offensive, it’s misogynistic,” he said.

“I’m not saying it’s bad that she’s nude,” I said.

Also read: Lena Dunham Explains Relationship With HBO: ‘Which Item of Clothing Would You Like Me to Remove?’ (Video)

Another reporter noted that if Louis C.K. were naked on his show, we would ask about it.

“There’s a way to word a question about the reason for nudity on the show and it was not done elegantly. If you re-read it and you listen to it you will not be proud of yourself.”

“I’m not un-proud of myself in any way because everyone I know has wondered the same thing. I don’t understand as a writer, what the reason for it is. I’m not against it.”

“That’s another thing. It shows a lack of depth in how you watch the show.”

“I watch the show really deeply, actually,” I said. “I’m trying to understand it as a TV critic. That’s my job.”

Also read: Shia LaBeouf Apologizes to Lena Dunham – With a Lena Dunham Apology

“As a TV critic you don’t understand why a show about young people in New York who spend some of their time naked, and some of their time having sex, includes women who sometimes are naked and sometimes have sex?”

“Then why aren’t all of the characters naked?” I asked.

He said a show about me would feature me naked some of the time.

“Then why aren’t all the characters in your movies naked some of the time? … Paul Rudd wasn’t naked,” I added, referring to “This Is 40.’”

“There’s male nudity in ‘Walk Hard,’” he said. “I have people naked when they’re willing to do it. Lena is confident enough to do it so we have the opportunity to talk about other issues because she is braver than other people. If Paul Rudd said to me, I’m willing to be completely naked in the movie, I would use it. If Seth [Rogen] said he was willing to be completely naked — he showed his butt in a post-sex scene in ‘Knocked Up’ — I would use it because it’s more honest.”

“Well then that’s the answer,” I said.

“Read how you asked the question,” he said.

“I said that on ‘Game of Thrones’ they do it for salacious purposes. I’m not giving ‘Game of Thrones’ credit for that. ‘Salacious’ doesn’t have a positive connotation.”

“Just listen to yourself,” he said.

I did. To transcribe my recording of this exchange.

“I’m really, truly stupid then, because I don’t understand,” I said.

“Maybe you just got nervous how you asked it and it came out much darker, edgier and negative than you realized.”

I checked with my girlfriend. She’s cool with what I asked.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Hannah constantly talks about what she wants to write about and what she is writing about. There are entire episodes about it.
What does she want to write about?
I'm not sure if you're serious or not. Have you actually watched the show?
Of course I'm serious. I've seen like two episodes long ago.
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Harry Lime wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Hannah constantly talks about what she wants to write about and what she is writing about. There are entire episodes about it.
What does she want to write about?
I'm not sure if you're serious or not. Have you actually watched the show?
Of course I'm serious. I've seen like two episodes long ago.
Oh. Did you see two episodes in a row? Where they the first two episodes of the series? Because that would make sense. I thought you'd seen most of the whole thing.

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Harry Lime is such a Charlie.
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Yeah, well, you're a real card yourself.
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Is it Sunday yet?
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Harry Lime wrote:Yeah, well, you're a real card yourself.
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goddamn i want to see the new season.
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We have a free weekend of hbo just in time for the season premier :ohyeah!:
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Im excited
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Me too, doc. I really can't wait. This feels more like Christmas eve to me than Christmas eve this year.
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durdencommatyler wrote:Me too, doc. I really can't wait. This feels more like Christmas eve to me than Christmas eve this year.
Its my birthday present :P

And i love that its 2 episodes since its the only time ill get to see it for a while
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