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Well that has a lot to do with the players batting around them, but walking Bonds in 2001 was pretty much a necessity.numbers wrote:Not like Rickey, how many times did they walk bonds and nothing came of it? If you walked Henderson it was a run.
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Right, what I'm saying is bonds could be neutralized though. Henderson couldn't be when he was in his prime.philpritchard wrote:Well that has a lot to do with the players batting around them, but walking Bonds in 2001 was pretty much a necessity.numbers wrote:Not like Rickey, how many times did they walk bonds and nothing came of it? If you walked Henderson it was a run.
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I hear what your saying for sure... my bro was/is a huge Henderson fan.numbers wrote:Right, what I'm saying is bonds could be neutralized though. Henderson couldn't be when he was in his prime.philpritchard wrote:Well that has a lot to do with the players batting around them, but walking Bonds in 2001 was pretty much a necessity.numbers wrote:Not like Rickey, how many times did they walk bonds and nothing came of it? If you walked Henderson it was a run.
but Bonds in 2001... steroids or not, if you threw him 1 strike... odds are it was a home run, just 1 thats all he needed.
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You didnt have to throw him a strike though, with Henderson there was nothing you could do. Pitch to him he goes deep, walk him and he steals 2nd and 3rd and then scores when someone puts the ball in play. The guy was amazing.MadTIGERmaN wrote:I hear what your saying for sure... my bro was/is a huge Henderson fan.numbers wrote:Right, what I'm saying is bonds could be neutralized though. Henderson couldn't be when he was in his prime.philpritchard wrote:Well that has a lot to do with the players batting around them, but walking Bonds in 2001 was pretty much a necessity.numbers wrote:Not like Rickey, how many times did they walk bonds and nothing came of it? If you walked Henderson it was a run.
but Bonds in 2001... steroids or not, if you threw him 1 strike... odds are it was a home run, just 1 thats all he needed.
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Team Numbers on this one. Henderson was the greatest leadoff hitter ever. Set the table for the rest of the team. And when he was on base he scored, or caused much distraction for the opposing pitcher, catcher...heck, everyone. He's a Top 10 greatest ever.numbers wrote:You didnt have to throw him a strike though, with Henderson there was nothing you could do. Pitch to him he goes deep, walk him and he steals 2nd and 3rd and then scores when someone puts the ball in play. The guy was amazing.MadTIGERmaN wrote:I hear what your saying for sure... my bro was/is a huge Henderson fan.numbers wrote:Right, what I'm saying is bonds could be neutralized though. Henderson couldn't be when he was in his prime.philpritchard wrote:Well that has a lot to do with the players batting around them, but walking Bonds in 2001 was pretty much a necessity.numbers wrote:Not like Rickey, how many times did they walk bonds and nothing came of it? If you walked Henderson it was a run.
but Bonds in 2001... steroids or not, if you threw him 1 strike... odds are it was a home run, just 1 thats all he needed.
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Bonds is a Top 2 greatest ever, though.Coach wrote:Team Numbers on this one. Henderson was the greatest leadoff hitter ever. Set the table for the rest of the team. And when he was on base he scored, or caused much distraction for the opposing pitcher, catcher...heck, everyone. He's a Top 10 greatest ever.numbers wrote:You didnt have to throw him a strike though, with Henderson there was nothing you could do. Pitch to him he goes deep, walk him and he steals 2nd and 3rd and then scores when someone puts the ball in play. The guy was amazing.MadTIGERmaN wrote:I hear what your saying for sure... my bro was/is a huge Henderson fan.numbers wrote:Right, what I'm saying is bonds could be neutralized though. Henderson couldn't be when he was in his prime.philpritchard wrote:Well that has a lot to do with the players batting around them, but walking Bonds in 2001 was pretty much a necessity.numbers wrote:Not like Rickey, how many times did they walk bonds and nothing came of it? If you walked Henderson it was a run.
but Bonds in 2001... steroids or not, if you threw him 1 strike... odds are it was a home run, just 1 thats all he needed.
I don't think I'm really disputing anything here. Henderson is the best leadoff hitter of all time, and Bonds is arguably the best player of all time.
They're like opposites... Henderson's speed = Bonds's power and Bonds's speed = Henderson's power.
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Who's the other Top 2?philpritchard wrote:Bonds is a Top 2 greatest ever, though.Coach wrote:Team Numbers on this one. Henderson was the greatest leadoff hitter ever. Set the table for the rest of the team. And when he was on base he scored, or caused much distraction for the opposing pitcher, catcher...heck, everyone. He's a Top 10 greatest ever.numbers wrote:You didnt have to throw him a strike though, with Henderson there was nothing you could do. Pitch to him he goes deep, walk him and he steals 2nd and 3rd and then scores when someone puts the ball in play. The guy was amazing.MadTIGERmaN wrote:I hear what your saying for sure... my bro was/is a huge Henderson fan.numbers wrote:Right, what I'm saying is bonds could be neutralized though. Henderson couldn't be when he was in his prime.philpritchard wrote:Well that has a lot to do with the players batting around them, but walking Bonds in 2001 was pretty much a necessity.numbers wrote:Not like Rickey, how many times did they walk bonds and nothing came of it? If you walked Henderson it was a run.
but Bonds in 2001... steroids or not, if you threw him 1 strike... odds are it was a home run, just 1 thats all he needed.![]()
I don't think I'm really disputing anything here. Henderson is the best leadoff hitter of all time, and Bonds is arguably the best player of all time.
They're like opposites... Henderson's speed = Bonds's power and Bonds's speed = Henderson's power.
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He's been so durable the past five seasons (30+ starts each year, 200+ innings in 4/5 of them) that you can almost smell the upcoming rotator cuff/elbow surgeries from here (at least after a contract like that).cutuphalfdead wrote:$30.7MM a year for Kershaw.
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I still have a hard time putting him infront of Aaron and Mays, and possibly DiMaggio and Williams... But hes definitely top 10, and Griffey JrFuck You Jobu wrote:Who's the other Top 2?philpritchard wrote:Bonds is a Top 2 greatest ever, though.Coach wrote:Team Numbers on this one. Henderson was the greatest leadoff hitter ever. Set the table for the rest of the team. And when he was on base he scored, or caused much distraction for the opposing pitcher, catcher...heck, everyone. He's a Top 10 greatest ever.numbers wrote:You didnt have to throw him a strike though, with Henderson there was nothing you could do. Pitch to him he goes deep, walk him and he steals 2nd and 3rd and then scores when someone puts the ball in play. The guy was amazing.MadTIGERmaN wrote:I hear what your saying for sure... my bro was/is a huge Henderson fan.numbers wrote:Right, what I'm saying is bonds could be neutralized though. Henderson couldn't be when he was in his prime.philpritchard wrote:Well that has a lot to do with the players batting around them, but walking Bonds in 2001 was pretty much a necessity.numbers wrote:Not like Rickey, how many times did they walk bonds and nothing came of it? If you walked Henderson it was a run.
but Bonds in 2001... steroids or not, if you threw him 1 strike... odds are it was a home run, just 1 thats all he needed.![]()
I don't think I'm really disputing anything here. Henderson is the best leadoff hitter of all time, and Bonds is arguably the best player of all time.
They're like opposites... Henderson's speed = Bonds's power and Bonds's speed = Henderson's power.
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Ruth.Fuck You Jobu wrote:Who's the other Top 2?
Top ten for me, not necessarily in order because that would require too much thought: Ruth, Bonds, Cobb, Mays, Aaron, Williams, Wagner, Hornsby, Musial Gehrig... maybe. I don't know. There are way too many unbelievable players in that top tier.
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ever notice in every highlight of Babe Ruth hitting a home run... he watches it.philpritchard wrote:Ruth.Fuck You Jobu wrote:Who's the other Top 2?
Top ten for me, not necessarily in order because that would require too much thought: Ruth, Bonds, Cobb, Mays, Aaron, Williams, Wagner, Hornsby, Musial Gehrig... maybe. I don't know. There are way too many unbelievable players in that top tier.
Is he the reason that became an unwritten rule?