Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

[Birds in Hell]

Oh man, I hate when I can't disagree with stip!

Mayonaise is fantastic.

[Jorge]

Oh man, I hate when I can't disagree with stip!

Mayonaise is fantastic.

http://www.facebook.com/jorge.farah/pos ... eam_ref=10

agree/disagree?

[Rangi Guy]

Oh man, I hate when I can't disagree with stip!

Mayonaise is fantastic.

http://www.facebook.com/jorge.farah/pos ... eam_ref=10

agree/disagree?

After initially disagreeing when I first saw you tweet that, and since then having given it a proper listen again, I may have to agree

[matt reeder]

This show makes my head explode. Actually, the entire January-February 1997 tour makes my head explode. I still need to write an essay sometime about how much I love this tour. Here's my favorite show of that leg:
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Link: https://archive.org/details/tsp1997-01-19.ANA2.flac16

THE SMASHING PUMPKINS
January 19, 1997
Riverfront Coliseum
Cincinnati, OH, USA

Taper: unknown
Source: unknown analog recorder
Conversion: ANA-2 > Sony TC-WE825S > Tascam DA-20MKii(A>D @ 44.1kHz) > Monster coax > Delta Dio 2496 > Cool Edit Pro 2.1
Editor: Andrew Fogelsong
Editing: fade in, fade out

Remaster: mattisnotfrench
Remaster notes: Changed speed -3%, boosted bass and a small amount of treble
FLAC: master wav's > CD Wave Editor 1.95 > FLAC (level 8)
Notes: beginning of Fuck You cut, beginning of Silverfuck cut, a few dropouts in recording

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Disc One: (68:53)
1. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (over PA)
2. The Aeroplane Flies High
3. Jellybelly
4. Tonight, Tonight
5. Rhinoceros
6. Here Is No Why
7. Zero
8. Fuck You (cuts in)
9. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans > Rocket (tease)
10. 1979
11. Thirty-three
12. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
13. Muzzle

Disc Two: (66:56)
1. Disarm
2. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
3. encore break 1 > Jumping Jack Flash [The Rolling Stones] (tease)
4. X.Y.U.
5. encore break 2
6. Drown > Hummer (tease), (blues jam) > Tribute to Johnny (tease) > Mouths Of Babes (tease) > God (tease) > Tristessa (tease)
7. Cherub Rock
8. Silverfuck > Space Jam > Star Spangled Banner [Key] (tease)

Notes: Incredible show.

[zeb]

Hard to argue with that set list.

[matt reeder]

Hard to argue with that set list.

The show is even better. They nail every single song and Billy is on fire. Too bad the quality of the show is only average, a B at best. This is one of those shows where you overlook the quality because the show is so damn good.

The previous night is incredible too:

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THE SMASHING PUMPKINS
Date: January 18, 1997
Venue: Assembly Hall
Location: Bloomington, IN

Source: CSB>HSJ445

Cd 1:
01. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (over PA)
02. The Aeroplane Flies High
03. Jellybelly
04. Rhinoceros
05. Tonight, Tonight
06. Zero
07. Fuck You
08. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
09. Rocket
10. Thirty-three
11. Bullet With Butterfly Wings
XX Muzzle
XX Disarm
XX Thru the Eyes Of Ruby

encore 1:
12. By Starlight
13. Siva

Cd 2:
encore 2:
01. X.Y.U.

encore 3:
02. Silverfuck/(Space Jam)/(Bury Me)

It's too bad that recording sucks and is incomplete. All these shows are just freaking amazing.

[Captain Termite]

Is it just me, or is it odd how any hint of a song is listed in online Pumpkins setlists as a tease more than for other bands? Why is this?

[matt reeder]

Is it just me, or is it odd how any hint of a song is listed in online Pumpkins setlists as a tease more than for other bands? Why is this?

No clue. It could just be the way the online community of that band organizes their setlists; some setlist people like to list every tease, no matter how small.

During this tour the Billy and James were screwing around a lot with different songs during their set. Take this show, from the same tour:

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Link: https://archive.org/details/sp1997-01-26.flac16

THE SMASHING PUMPKINS
January 26, 1997
War Memorial Stadium
Rochester, NY, USA

Source: Sony ECM-727P > Sony WM-D6C
Lineage: ANA-M > Sony TC-WE825S > Tascam DA-20MKii(A>D @ 44.1kHz) > Delta Dio
Taped by: Greg? M
Transferred by: Andrew Fogelsong
Keywords: the smashing pumpkins; billy corgan

Disc 1
1. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (over PA)
2. Tonight, Tonight
3. Cherub Rock
4. Where Boys Fear to Tread
5. Rhinoceros
6. Love (abandoned) (twice) > Smells Like Teen Spirit [Nirvana] (tease)
7. Here Is No Why
8. Zero
9. Fuck You
10. Porcelina > Rocket (tease)
11. 1979
12. Thirty-three
13. Bullet With Butterfly Wings
14. Farewell and Goodnight (one verse and one chorus)
15. Muzzle

Disc 2
1. Disarm
2. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
3. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida [Iron Butterfly] (tease) > X.Y.U. (abandoned) > Today (tease)
4. X.Y.U.
5. Drown > Hummer (tease)
6. Siva > Spiders (tease)
7. Today (tease) > Landslide [Nicks] (tease) > Soma (tease)
8. The Aeroplane Flies High

Note: D'arcy freaked out about a speaker high above the stage and refused to come back out for the final encore. They finally coaxed her back out but scratched "Silverfuck" from the set, closing with "The Aeroplane Flies High" instead.

Or take this one, an incredible show with a crappy, incomplete recording:
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Link: https://archive.org/details/tsp1997-02-02.flac16

THE SMASHING PUMPKINS
February 2, 1997 (check for other copies)
Jacksonville Coliseum
Jacksonville, FL, USA

Source: unknown analog recorder
Lineage: ANA-2 > dEdit > FLAC
Transferred by: Andrew Fogelsong

1. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (over PA)
2. Tonight, Tonight
3. Cherub Rock
4. Where Boys Fear To Tread
5. Rhinoceros
6. Rocket
7. Zero
8. Fuck You
9. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
10. La Dolly Vita (tease) > Thirty-Three
11. Today
12. Bullet with Butterfly Wings > Swallowed [Bush] (tease)

Disc 2
1. Muzzle
2. Disarm
3. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
4. Lovefool [Cardigans] (tease) / picking the dancers
5. 1979
6. Obscured (tease) > Tristessa (tease) > Slunk (tease) > Landslide [Nicks] (tease) > Quiet (tease) > Mouths of Babes (tease) > Rotten Apples (tease) > To Forgive (tease)
7. To Forgive (played because the crowd went crazy when they teased the song during the "tease" medley)
8. X.Y.U.
9. Drown > Hummer (tease)
10. Siva
11. The Aeroplane Flies High (cuts out after 15 seconds)
XX. Silverfuck (said to be over 40 minutes long, and probably the longest version the band ever played)

[Fuzzcharger]

I really love the song Drown. Can anyone recommend other SP songs similar in vibe to this tune?

Maybe Soma or Mayonaise?

Mayonnaise is probably closest. It's a pretty great song.

Oh man, I hate when I can't disagree with stip!

Mayonaise is fantastic.

Thanks fellas.

[Jorge]

A Brief History of Billy Corgan Losing His Goddamn Mind

This is an admirable timeline, but it leaves out my favorite era: the couple of years or so immediately following Zwan. Jesus obsession, blog rants about God and fame, wild accusations towards David Pajo and Paz Lenchantin ("promiscuous drug addicts!"). Man. Wonder if that blog is archived somewhere.

[Kevin Davis]

I love that Zwan record. I haven't listened to it in far too long.

[Iholdthepain]

I love that Zwan record. I haven't listened to it in far too long.

It's the best SP album since Machina...

The Aeroplane>Silverfuck combo back then was usually the final encore, where they just come back and jam for 45 minutes. When I saw them in Dec. 96, they did this even after the house lights came on and 1/3 of the crowd left. I was almost out the door.

[stip]

Lyric is a really good song

[Will]

Lyric is a really good song

Settle Down as well.

[stip]

was jimmy chamberlin on that album?

[Iholdthepain]

was jimmy chamberlin on that album?

Yep.

[stip]

He is ridiculously good.

[zeb]

http://pitchfork.com/news/54712-billy-c ... ks-for-60/

Billy Corgan Releasing Experimental LP AEGEA in Coming Weeks for $60
By Evan Minsker on April 9, 2014 at 12:35 a.m.

The Smashing Pumpkins' Billy Corgan has been hosting ambient/experimental performances at his suburban Chicago tea shop Madame ZuZu's. Today, Corgan has announced that in the next six to eight weeks, he'll release AEGEA. It's a private press experimental record that will set you back $59.95 (not including shipping).

The album consists of experimental recordings Corgan made in 2007. He writes:

“As a work, AEGEA is experimental in nature, and comes across as more a soundtrack to some lost foreign film than the kind of music I’m usually associated with. Listening back I quite like how AEGEA goes along, as it has qualities that are both meditative and alien; but not alienating.”

The first pressing comes in an edition of 250, each hand-numbered and annotated by Corgan. If you want to skip shipping costs, you can also buy the record at Madame ZuZu's while supplies last.

[zeb]

[Iholdthepain]

I can't wait to buy hear this.