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http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/20 ... r_not.html

Republican Who Blamed Pregnant Rape Victims for Not Taking Plan B Tried to Restrict Plan B Access

Sater may believe that women need to be swift in their Plan B procurement, but he also apparently thinks that it should be very difficult for women to procure Plan B. In 2010, Sater sponsored a bill that would allow pharmacies not to stock emergency contraception if they don't want to, and prevent women—presumably including rape victims—from suing pharmacies for not doing so. So, rape victims: You're expected to get it together so quickly post-rape that you don't forget to take emergency contraception, even though you're not allowed to expect any pharmacies to actually stock the stuff. (Also, despite his focus on emergency contraception, it appears Sater has no idea that it has a 5-11 percent failure rate, which means that some of those rape victims that he blames for not taking Plan B fast enough did, in fact, do so.)
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call me an optimist but i think we're pretty close to reaching an accord in this thread
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BurtReynolds wrote:http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/breaking-news/index.ssf/2014/03/us_supreme_court_wont_hear_eas.html
good to see you so concerned
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malice wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/breaking-news/index.ssf/2014/03/us_supreme_court_wont_hear_eas.html
good to see you so concerned
I just saw "boobies" and thought it might be feminist related.
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BurtReynolds wrote:
malice wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/breaking-news/index.ssf/2014/03/us_supreme_court_wont_hear_eas.html
good to see you so concerned
I just saw "boobies" and thought it might be feminist related.
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In harmless' honor, a whole article about micro-aggressions and the LGBTQ* community. Recent work by Michael Woodford suggests that self-esteem can act as a protective mechanism from the harm usually experienced by being subjected to microaggressions."

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014 ... uided.html
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malice wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/03/10/missouri_state_senator_david_sater_blames_pregnant_rape_victims_for_not.html

Republican Who Blamed Pregnant Rape Victims for Not Taking Plan B Tried to Restrict Plan B Access

Sater may believe that women need to be swift in their Plan B procurement, but he also apparently thinks that it should be very difficult for women to procure Plan B. In 2010, Sater sponsored a bill that would allow pharmacies not to stock emergency contraception if they don't want to, and prevent women—presumably including rape victims—from suing pharmacies for not doing so. So, rape victims: You're expected to get it together so quickly post-rape that you don't forget to take emergency contraception, even though you're not allowed to expect any pharmacies to actually stock the stuff. (Also, despite his focus on emergency contraception, it appears Sater has no idea that it has a 5-11 percent failure rate, which means that some of those rape victims that he blames for not taking Plan B fast enough did, in fact, do so.)
Kinda related artifact of the patriarchy: why is birth control not over the counter? Sure, there are risks, but there are risks in many over the counter pills. Tylenol is not too far down the list from alcohol for causes of liver failure. Additionally, I'd like to se the numbers, but I'd wager that tobacco is riskier regarding stroke than estrogen and progesterone.
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simple schoolboy wrote:
malice wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/03/10/missouri_state_senator_david_sater_blames_pregnant_rape_victims_for_not.html

Republican Who Blamed Pregnant Rape Victims for Not Taking Plan B Tried to Restrict Plan B Access

Sater may believe that women need to be swift in their Plan B procurement, but he also apparently thinks that it should be very difficult for women to procure Plan B. In 2010, Sater sponsored a bill that would allow pharmacies not to stock emergency contraception if they don't want to, and prevent women—presumably including rape victims—from suing pharmacies for not doing so. So, rape victims: You're expected to get it together so quickly post-rape that you don't forget to take emergency contraception, even though you're not allowed to expect any pharmacies to actually stock the stuff. (Also, despite his focus on emergency contraception, it appears Sater has no idea that it has a 5-11 percent failure rate, which means that some of those rape victims that he blames for not taking Plan B fast enough did, in fact, do so.)
Kinda related artifact of the patriarchy: why is birth control not over the counter? Sure, there are risks, but there are risks in many over the counter pills. Tylenol is not too far down the list from alcohol for causes of liver failure. Additionally, I'd like to se the numbers, but I'd wager that tobacco is riskier regarding stroke than estrogen and progesterone.
birth control is largely by prescription only for women (you notice men can even buy rubbers at a gas station etc) because our roots are as a puritanical society and women who presume they'll be having sex, and thus take preventative measures against it, are sluts and whores and should be shamed for it, should be closely monitored by their (most of the time, male) physicians as well as probed in literally, very invasive ways. and made to report regularly (to their doctors) on their sexual habits.

men only need a prescription for viagra, and that's marketed on tv as 'ways to be more manly, vigorous, and able to perform when the 'the mood is right'. you know, because it's totally fine and good for men to want to have sex. far as i know, viagra dilates blood vessels or something like that so can pose larger health issues than the pill does for women.

all conjecture on my part, but seems like a pretty plausible explanation...
of course if any of these well educated men here can refute that, i'd be interested to read why they think birth control for women isn't as easily obtainable over the counter as for men.
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malice wrote:of course if any of these well educated men here can refute that, i'd be interested to read why they think birth control for women isn't as easily obtainable over the counter as for men.
Because I woulda slipped one into my wife's daily morning coffee?
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malice wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
malice wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/03/10/missouri_state_senator_david_sater_blames_pregnant_rape_victims_for_not.html

Republican Who Blamed Pregnant Rape Victims for Not Taking Plan B Tried to Restrict Plan B Access

Sater may believe that women need to be swift in their Plan B procurement, but he also apparently thinks that it should be very difficult for women to procure Plan B. In 2010, Sater sponsored a bill that would allow pharmacies not to stock emergency contraception if they don't want to, and prevent women—presumably including rape victims—from suing pharmacies for not doing so. So, rape victims: You're expected to get it together so quickly post-rape that you don't forget to take emergency contraception, even though you're not allowed to expect any pharmacies to actually stock the stuff. (Also, despite his focus on emergency contraception, it appears Sater has no idea that it has a 5-11 percent failure rate, which means that some of those rape victims that he blames for not taking Plan B fast enough did, in fact, do so.)
Kinda related artifact of the patriarchy: why is birth control not over the counter? Sure, there are risks, but there are risks in many over the counter pills. Tylenol is not too far down the list from alcohol for causes of liver failure. Additionally, I'd like to se the numbers, but I'd wager that tobacco is riskier regarding stroke than estrogen and progesterone.
birth control is largely by prescription only for women (you notice men can even buy rubbers at a gas station etc) because our roots are as a puritanical society and women who presume they'll be having sex, and thus take preventative measures against it, are sluts and whores and should be shamed for it, should be closely monitored by their (most of the time, male) physicians as well as probed in literally, very invasive ways. and made to report regularly (to their doctors) on their sexual habits.

men only need a prescription for viagra, and that's marketed on tv as 'ways to be more manly, vigorous, and able to perform when the 'the mood is right'. you know, because it's totally fine and good for men to want to have sex. far as i know, viagra dilates blood vessels or something like that so can pose larger health issues than the pill does for women.

all conjecture on my part, but seems like a pretty plausible explanation...
of course if any of these well educated men here can refute that, i'd be interested to read why they think birth control for women isn't as easily obtainable over the counter as for men.

Also, you know, it's a drug that can have significant side effects if taken by the wrong woman. It's best to be checked for a doctor for those possible complications before starting to take a drug EVERY SINGLE DAY.
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@SkitchP wrote:
malice wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
malice wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/03/10/missouri_state_senator_david_sater_blames_pregnant_rape_victims_for_not.html

Republican Who Blamed Pregnant Rape Victims for Not Taking Plan B Tried to Restrict Plan B Access

Sater may believe that women need to be swift in their Plan B procurement, but he also apparently thinks that it should be very difficult for women to procure Plan B. In 2010, Sater sponsored a bill that would allow pharmacies not to stock emergency contraception if they don't want to, and prevent women—presumably including rape victims—from suing pharmacies for not doing so. So, rape victims: You're expected to get it together so quickly post-rape that you don't forget to take emergency contraception, even though you're not allowed to expect any pharmacies to actually stock the stuff. (Also, despite his focus on emergency contraception, it appears Sater has no idea that it has a 5-11 percent failure rate, which means that some of those rape victims that he blames for not taking Plan B fast enough did, in fact, do so.)
Kinda related artifact of the patriarchy: why is birth control not over the counter? Sure, there are risks, but there are risks in many over the counter pills. Tylenol is not too far down the list from alcohol for causes of liver failure. Additionally, I'd like to se the numbers, but I'd wager that tobacco is riskier regarding stroke than estrogen and progesterone.
birth control is largely by prescription only for women (you notice men can even buy rubbers at a gas station etc) because our roots are as a puritanical society and women who presume they'll be having sex, and thus take preventative measures against it, are sluts and whores and should be shamed for it, should be closely monitored by their (most of the time, male) physicians as well as probed in literally, very invasive ways. and made to report regularly (to their doctors) on their sexual habits.

men only need a prescription for viagra, and that's marketed on tv as 'ways to be more manly, vigorous, and able to perform when the 'the mood is right'. you know, because it's totally fine and good for men to want to have sex. far as i know, viagra dilates blood vessels or something like that so can pose larger health issues than the pill does for women.

all conjecture on my part, but seems like a pretty plausible explanation...
of course if any of these well educated men here can refute that, i'd be interested to read why they think birth control for women isn't as easily obtainable over the counter as for men.

Also, you know, it's a drug that can have significant side effects if taken by the wrong woman. It's best to be checked for a doctor for those possible complications before starting to take a drug EVERY SINGLE DAY.
google (and 47 years as a woman) tells me otherwise regarding the pill (most commonly Ortho-Novum 777) - what dangerous side effects apart from increased chance of blood clots for smokers or women over 35? since that's a well known risk and is no more or less dangerous than smoking over the counter cigarettes...

who are the wrong women?
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malice wrote: google (and 47 years as a woman) tells me otherwise regarding the pill (most commonly Ortho-Novum 777) - what dangerous side effects apart from increased chance of blood clots for smokers or women over 35? since that's a well known risk and is no more or less dangerous than smoking over the counter cigarettes...

who are the wrong women?

Those at risk for blood clots, Women over 35 and those who smoke.




I think initially the need for a script for it was based on the patriarchy. At this point however I do think it is, in large part, to make sure that they are educated on the (small) risks. If it was released today it probably wouldn't be RX only, but no need to really unrestrict it either.
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do men who get viagra have to get prostate exams every three months in order to continue their prescription?
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