Match BF: Inside Job vs. Nothing As It Seems (demo)

chewm · Post by **chewm** » Mon March 10, 2014 8:30 pm

Most of the inside job music is really good imo.
Voted for it, close though.

Lament · Post by **Lament** » Mon March 10, 2014 9:41 pm

durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:Wasn't it handed out at the Pj20 show as part of the member package thingy?
Could be. I really don't know. A kind soul sent it to me, which is the only reason I've heard it. But I really like it.

Yeah, it was the other song on the When The Fire Comes single.

Post by **epilogue** » Mon March 10, 2014 9:53 pm

Lament wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:Wasn't it handed out at the Pj20 show as part of the member package thingy?
Could be. I really don't know. A kind soul sent it to me, which is the only reason I've heard it. But I really like it.
Yeah, it was the other song on the When The Fire Comes single.

Post by **stip** » Mon March 10, 2014 10:24 pm

Lament wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:Wasn't it handed out at the Pj20 show as part of the member package thingy?
Could be. I really don't know. A kind soul sent it to me, which is the only reason I've heard it. But I really like it.
Yeah, it was the other song on the When The Fire Comes single.

Was the other song Chinese?

Lament · Post by **Lament** » Mon March 10, 2014 10:39 pm

No, it was just When The Fire Comes and the Other Side demo.

Post by **stip** » Mon March 10, 2014 11:27 pm

What is when the fire comes?

Lament · Post by **Lament** » Mon March 10, 2014 11:31 pm

stip wrote:What is when the fire comes?

The studio version doesn't appear to be on youtube. It's a Jeff song with Joseph Arthur on vocals. It's hard to watch this performance with Matt & Mike and not think this should have been a Pearl Jam song. It's probably my favorite PJ-related song of the last ten years.

(Granted, Mike kinda sucks here)

--- · Post by **---** » Tue March 11, 2014 1:39 am

where exists this demo

warehouse · Post by **warehouse** » Tue March 11, 2014 1:42 am

--- wrote:where exists this demo

i think the pj20 soundtrack. its probably on youtube. jeff on vocals. its pretty cool.

--- · Post by **---** » Tue March 11, 2014 1:47 am

warehouse wrote:
--- wrote:where exists this demo
i think the pj20 soundtrack. its probably on youtube. jeff on vocals. its pretty cool.

you are correct fine sir

Post by **Sgt. Crackpot** » Tue March 11, 2014 1:51 am

I don't care for his singing, but Jeff's writing prowess is very underrated.

warehouse · Post by **warehouse** » Tue March 11, 2014 2:48 am

Sgt. Crackpot wrote:I don't care for his singing, but Jeff's writing prowess is very underrated.

i dig the layers to his vocals on this.

Iholdthepain · Post by **Iholdthepain** » Tue March 11, 2014 5:08 am

Changed my vote to Inside Job after hearing the demo... There's nothing really different. All the elements of the song are there except the lead guitar... Different singer and a few undetermined lyrics. It's a fucking DEMO! This makes as much sense to me as voting for covers

BUT... It's not my game, I didn't make the rules, and I enjoy playing...

Carry on.

ABNorman · Post by **ABNorman** » Tue March 11, 2014 11:19 am

I also changed my vote to Inside Job after hearing the demo.

Thejambi · Post by **Thejambi** » Tue March 11, 2014 2:32 pm

Oh please. That demo is way better than a finished Inside Job.

hlniv · Post by **hlniv** » Tue March 11, 2014 2:47 pm

Inside Job gets shit on way more than it should. Yes, it is a bad song. But, that is a result of the lyrics and the production, not the song structure or the instrumental music. With the right treatment, and an improved vocal melody/lyrical approach, it could have been a very nice tune. I really do enjoy the intro music to this in a live setting when performed well (which is not often). I saw the first live performance of this (Toronto '06), and it was one of the more memorable moments of the night - Mike on the double neck guitar, the piano overlay, etc...

But, on the record as it turns out, it kinda is terrible.

Post by **Jorge** » Tue March 11, 2014 2:50 pm

Iholdthepain wrote:Changed my vote to Inside Job after hearing the demo... There's nothing really different. All the elements of the song are there except the lead guitar... Different singer and a few undetermined lyrics. It's a fucking DEMO! This makes as much sense to me as voting for covers

BUT... It's not my game, I didn't make the rules, and I enjoy playing...

Carry on.

I totally agree. Including demos in this is weird.

William Bloke · Post by **William Bloke** » Tue March 11, 2014 4:07 pm

theplatypus wrote:
Iholdthepain wrote:Changed my vote to Inside Job after hearing the demo... There's nothing really different. All the elements of the song are there except the lead guitar... Different singer and a few undetermined lyrics. It's a fucking DEMO! This makes as much sense to me as voting for covers

BUT... It's not my game, I didn't make the rules, and I enjoy playing...

Carry on.
I totally agree. Including demos in this is weird.

Absolutely, but I'm still gonna vote on the choices presented. I'm happy enough to make a subjective call on 2 tunes, regardless of their respective states of completion.

That said having demos included here isn't ideal, but like stip said, that's a factor if comp numbers more than anything else.

Post by **stip** » Tue March 11, 2014 8:20 pm

it's entirely to avoid byes. We have way more songs than the 128 tournament structure can absorb.

Red Mosquito

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