Match EA: Deep vs. Help Help

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Deep
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37
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Match EA: Deep vs. Help Help

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Re: Match EA: Deep vs. Help Help

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This is a tough one. I dig both of these songs. I voted Help Help but early live versions of Deep can be amazing.
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Deep. It's not a favorite but I do like it, and despite some valiant attempts on my part I just can't get myself to care much about help help
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Help Help. "The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just me." line is superb.
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Help Help is a forgotten diamond in the rough. Deep is just OK.
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I have to go Help Help

Literally no band could cover Deep without it suffering a quality drop, because the writing is insufficient to support the drama. It, like so many Who classics, grows strong solely on the fact that it is written to exactly the band that is playing it.

But the "tell me lies" not-quite-plea ("I don't really know that I want this, but it will make my day go by easier so grant me this one simple ease...") and subsequent horror speak to my adult moral pursuits and failures, and to the awareness of inexactness therein, more than the easy comfort of "rapists are bad WHOAH CANT TOUCH.."
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Help Help, love that song
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Help Help is leaps and bounds better than Deep.
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Help Help

Though I love me something Deep
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I like Help Help an awful lot but I'm absurdly fond of Deep's churning sway so Deep it is.
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I won't be mad either way here.
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Deep. One of the few Ten tracks I'd choose to listen to today. HH is ordinary.
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McParadigm wrote:I have to go Help Help

Literally no band could cover Deep without it suffering a quality drop, because the writing is insufficient to support the drama. It, like so many Who classics, grows strong solely on the fact that it is written to exactly the band that is playing it.

But the "tell me lies" not-quite-plea ("I don't really know that I want this, but it will make my day go by easier so grant me this one simple ease...") and subsequent horror speak to my adult moral pursuits and failures, and to the awareness of inexactness therein, more than the easy comfort of "rapists are bad WHOAH CANT TOUCH.."
Deep is a younger song, but there is more going on there than you are allowing for. The absence of content and context in help help should no more be seen as a sign of sophistication than a particular detail should become the entirety of a story
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Help Help is one of the bright spots on a turgid mess of an album. Even so, most pre-2000 songs poop on it from varying heights.

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I do love Help Help.

But, Deep.
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Did someone really just call help help ordinary?
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cutuphalfdead wrote:Did someone really just call help help ordinary?
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Had a listen again. It's certainly not a favourite and is stuck in one of my least favourite runs in their entire catalogue. Ordinary may not be the right word but it's not ever been enjoyed by me. In fact, I probably enjoyed it the most just then.
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