General Pearl Jam Bitching

[McParadigm]

A lot of the update notes on this album over at UK Mix contain the most fantastic note, right at the very top:



Dur, sadly, appears to get no credit whatsoever.

[Rangi Guy]

fuck the rest of you. I really like future days. It's honest and sentimental and sappy and lovely.

This!!!!

[McParadigm]

fuck the rest of you. I really like future days. It's honest and sentimental and sappy and lovely.

This!!!!

I actually agree about the music for the most part. But Ed sounds so astoundingly bad on that thing, and he's got some real clunky shit written in there to boot.

[aurynsdad]

I'm shocked they chose it over Sleeping By Myself, but I guess it's actually the public that chose it, as they based their decision on its apparently insane number of iTunes sales (second on the album only to Sirens). Yes, to the mainstream, Pearl Jam is definitely more relevant as a dad rock band right now.

[McParadigm]

I'm shocked they chose it over Sleeping By Myself, but I guess it's actually the public that chose it, as they based their decision on its apparently insane number of iTunes sales (second on the album only to Sirens). Yes, to the mainstream, Pearl Jam is definitely more relevant as a dad rock band right now.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to that stuff. It's all carefully phrased to max the hype about a release. Just like Lightning Bolt has actually sold around 380k, but the number is adjusted to 400 by counting copies shipped to retail (as-yet unsold) in order to slightly pad the album's implied audience response.

Future Days is "#2 in iTunes sales to Sirens" (see how we are linking our new single to the one that did the best?), but for what time frame? Last week? Or is that actually a reference to its lonely little one-week peak on the digital sales charts after some television appearance? Did we take its status as second-highest reaching digital purchase charter, a status dependent entirely on that single week of sales, and phrase that as "SECOND TO SIRENS IN SALES" in order to overstate its reception? Because Mind Your Manners has almost certainly sold more copies, based on iTunes own weekly charts.

It's hype that nobody in the industry even bothers to read, anymore. It just becomes space filler, just "how we do these things."

All of them. All the time.

[bodysnatcher]

guys, what if this is the last single PJ ever releases to radio

[EJ]

I'm shocked they chose it over Sleeping By Myself, but I guess it's actually the public that chose it, as they based their decision on its apparently insane number of iTunes sales (second on the album only to Sirens). Yes, to the mainstream, Pearl Jam is definitely more relevant as a dad rock band right now.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to that stuff. It's all carefully phrased to max the hype about a release. Just like Lightning Bolt has actually sold around 380k, but the number is adjusted to 400 by counting copies shipped to retail (as-yet unsold) in order to slightly pad the album's implied audience response.

Future Days is "#2 in iTunes sales to Sirens" (see how we are linking our new single to the one that did the best?), but for what time frame? Last week? Or is that actually a reference to its lonely little one-week peak on the digital sales charts after some television appearance? Did we take its status as second-highest reaching digital purchase charter, a status dependent entirely on that single week of sales, and phrase that as "SECOND TO SIRENS IN SALES" in order to overstate its reception? Because Mind Your Manners has almost certainly sold more copies, based on iTunes own weekly charts.

It's hype that nobody in the industry even bothers to read, anymore. It just becomes space filler, just "how we do these things."

All of them. All the time.

the spike was probably due to a repeat showing of the Grey's Anatomy episode it appeared in.

[BurtReynolds]

Ed could do a solo album of this saccharine shit and it would probably go platinum, but at what cost? WHAT COST?!

[EJ]

Ed could do a solo album of this saccharine shit and it would probably go platinum, but at what cost? WHAT COST?!

Well, it would put him in a good position for finally getting a seat as a judge on The Voice.

[stip]

It might do alright on triple a, but it's incredibly stupid to go with that over sleeping by myself. It's the difference between just doing alright and repeating sirens' success.

future days was at its best as the album track that was whored out to any television show looking for dramatic episode-ending montage music.

yeah, I like SBM more as a choice. I am surprised by that itunes tidbit about sales, though

[Lament]

It's always a neat day when you find out a band you love is releasing literally your absolute least favorite thing they've ever done as their new single.

[stip]

Ed could do a solo album of this saccharine shit and it would probably go platinum, but at what cost? WHAT COST?!

maybe it would get it out of his system.

[BurtReynolds]

What were the singles on ST?

[Lament]

World Wide Suicide, Life Wasted, and Gone? Maybe...

[stip]

yeah. Only WWS made an impact. The last two records had quite successful first and second singles.

[Lament]

I went to wikipedia to check, and was pleasantly surprised by the quotes from the band that show up in the article...

"It's pretty aggressive, especially when you turn it loud." -Ed

"...the hope was going to be in the guitar solos. It was the guitars and drums going at it that was going to lift you out of the dark abyss that I had painted." -Ed

"it seem[ed] like a critical time to participate in our democracy." -Ed, on the decision to appear on late night TV shows for promotion

"I think we were watching the Super Bowl, and we had some guacamole or something." -Mike

[McParadigm]

World Wide Suicide, Life Wasted, and Gone? Maybe...

Yup. I never understood how they thought that THOSE were the three songs that would put them over, but whatevs. Suicide was probably alright for doing the Mannersish "we still rock" opener, but the other two are terrible singles choices.

I am surprised by that itunes tidbit about sales, though

I hate when you feel the need to really drive home that you don't read my posts, stip. Thanks a lot.

[stip]

I posted it before I got to your post. Then I kind of regretted my post. But what's been posted cannot be unposted. Not be me. Not by anyone.

[McParadigm]

I posted it before I got to your post. Then I kind of regretted my post. But what's been posted cannot be unposted. Not be me. Not by anyone.

Post-posting regret is the sole universal RM experience.

[BurtReynolds]

World Wide Suicide, Life Wasted, and Gone? Maybe...

Yup. I never understood how they thought that THOSE were the three songs that would put them over, but whatevs. Suicide was probably alright for doing the Mannersish "we still rock" opener, but the other two are terrible singles choices.

I think WWS was Ed still wanting to preach the evils of the republican party. Otherwise, its just the usual fast song, slow song, midtempo song template that seems to be their only strategy with singles.