Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

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aurynsdad wrote:Listening to music is definitively a subjective experience.
Really, anytime you say something like "you can't judge music," you make yourself sound like a huge tool. It's that kind of egalitarianism that really defines who has anything worthwhile to say about art and who doesn't, because if you can't separate a Mozart sonata from a coffehouse open mic, you really shouldn't be talking about music at all. Same goes for poetry, same goes for visual art, same goes for cinematography. The objective elements are what allow the emotion to take body in the work of art. You can't appreciate a good scene in a movie if it isn't shot in an artistic manner, and you can't really feel the emotion in a piece of music if the musician writes about wanting to "put a little fixin'" on a mistake. And I take this personally as well. I'm trying to be a writer. I'm working very hard at trying to be a writer, and for you to come in here and imply that there's no objective level on which I can improve my writing and that nothing separates me from people who aren't studying literature and who aren't writing short stories and who aren't making a concerted effort to find their own voices and to write in an authentic and fresh manner? That basically discredits the entirety of what I'm trying to do. Fuck you.
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i agree with everything mrdoks said but what if someone legitimately finds pleasure and gets emotion out of getting fixed a bit?
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Cue the popcorn gif... Anyone? I'd do it, but Malice is paying attention.
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Someone will have to microwave said popcorn. Enough for all of us.
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Thodoks has feelings?
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--- wrote:
aurynsdad wrote:Listening to music is definitively a subjective experience.
Really, anytime you say something like "you can't judge music," you make yourself sound like a huge tool. It's that kind of egalitarianism that really defines who has anything worthwhile to say about art and who doesn't, because if you can't separate a Mozart sonata from a coffehouse open mic, you really shouldn't be talking about music at all. Same goes for poetry, same goes for visual art, same goes for cinematography. The objective elements are what allow the emotion to take body in the work of art. You can't appreciate a good scene in a movie if it isn't shot in an artistic manner, and you can't really feel the emotion in a piece of music if the musician writes about wanting to "put a little fixin'" on a mistake. And I take this personally as well. I'm trying to be a writer. I'm working very hard at trying to be a writer, and for you to come in here and imply that there's no objective level on which I can improve my writing and that nothing separates me from people who aren't studying literature and who aren't writing short stories and who aren't making a concerted effort to find their own voices and to write in an authentic and fresh manner? That basically discredits the entirety of what I'm trying to do. Fuck you.
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McParadigm wrote:no it isnt
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Birds in Hell wrote:whoosh
You're a vet, that's a famous Mickey quote from the old board right? Or at least part of it. Tarot card thread maybe...?
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Or is it infamous? either way...
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Thats like MORE than famous!
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Remember the Great tarot card debate??

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--- wrote:You can't appreciate a good scene in a movie if it isn't shot in an artistic manner
I can. I get what you're saying, but that's like saying that a good piece of music can only be appreciated if it's well recorded, or recorded in an artistic manner. Some of my favorite works of art are those that I have to "work past" some aspect to enjoy. As far as movies, I can things of tons of them that aren't artistically shot but that are highly enjoyable nevertheless. But overall, I do understand where you're coming from. I think.
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malice wrote:
--- wrote:
aurynsdad wrote:Listening to music is definitively a subjective experience.
Really, anytime you say something like "you can't judge music," you make yourself sound like a huge tool. It's that kind of egalitarianism that really defines who has anything worthwhile to say about art and who doesn't, because if you can't separate a Mozart sonata from a coffehouse open mic, you really shouldn't be talking about music at all. Same goes for poetry, same goes for visual art, same goes for cinematography. The objective elements are what allow the emotion to take body in the work of art. You can't appreciate a good scene in a movie if it isn't shot in an artistic manner, and you can't really feel the emotion in a piece of music if the musician writes about wanting to "put a little fixin'" on a mistake. And I take this personally as well. I'm trying to be a writer. I'm working very hard at trying to be a writer, and for you to come in here and imply that there's no objective level on which I can improve my writing and that nothing separates me from people who aren't studying literature and who aren't writing short stories and who aren't making a concerted effort to find their own voices and to write in an authentic and fresh manner? That basically discredits the entirety of what I'm trying to do. Fuck you.
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This popcorns tasty
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sources indicate that Ed may have performed Sleeping By Myself and changed the lyrics to "CRM-ing by Myself"



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i wonder what thodoks' book is going to be about
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Hopefully its about crafting a persona based on a virtue that people value and then using that persona to extract personal benefit from people through actions that are inconsistent with that virtue
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