The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

[BurtReynolds]

It will be terrible and make a billion dollars.

[Rangi Guy]

This ain't the turtles I know...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCjsWpM9zFU

Megan Fox? Really?

If this trailer is anything to go by, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles will be an exciting creative leap for Michael Bay, portraying the titular ninja turtles as solemn and complex heroes trying to come to terms with the essence of violence.

The trailer suggests a film of incredible nuance and subtlety, updating the turtles from the mere cartoon characters they were to become avatars of humankind's struggle against its very nature.

Just kidding. Everything is in a bluish hue, lens flares blot out the screen, and there are so many forced moments of action that Megan Fox doesn't even get time to blurt out a line between all her shocked gasping.

It's disappointing to see Fox back in a role as useless and token as her one in Transformers - after the whole Michael-Bay-is-Hitler thing and her preeeetty good turn in Jennifer's Body one might've hoped to see her escape into some better parts.

Still, she's obviously got plenty of experience at staring blankly at CGI monsters so maybe this won't be a completely agonising watch? Hard to say that with a straight face.

Not that the responsibility lies on Fox's shoulders. No, the writers deserve some blamecredit for their comedic wit, like having Donatello shout "Batter up!" while assisting one of his brothers with his bo staff. Because a staff is kind of like a baseball bat, and because that joke hasn't worn thin after, what, 30 years?

[McParadigm]

Woah they are turtles AND ninjas can't wait for this one

[stip]

They were such an important part of my childhood in such a disposable way that the bar will be pretty low for me to enjoy this.

And even I didn't think that trailer was any good

[bada]

Latino Review reports that Bradley Cooper is on a wish list of names to replace Harrison Ford in the "Indiana Jones" franchise. According to the site, which previously broke news about Cooper voicing Rocket Raccoon in "Guardians of the Galaxy," it's still unclear if the fifth Indiana Jones film will feature Ford as the adventuring professor or a new actor picking up the baton, a la the James Bond franchise.

Any re-boot would inevitably be dark.

Belloq wanted to get caught

[stip]

Actually, I kinda like the look of the turtles, and I did think that bit with Michaelangelo with the mask at the end of the trailer is right in line with the humor of the cartoon/comics

[bada]

My seven year old will probably lose his mind for this.

[McParadigm]

They were such an important part of my childhood in such a disposable way that the bar will be pretty low for me to enjoy this.

This sentence makes far less sense to me than if it had read "They were an important part of my childhood, but in such a disposable way that I don't have any interest in seeing this."

And even I didn't think that trailer was any good

The funniest trend in modern action movie marketing is the need to take every silly subject available and try to sell it as visceral or dramatic adult-level violence. This one might just win the prize, if that "we borrowed some footage from the Dark Knight Rises to get this done in time" trailer is to be believed.

They are turtles. And also ninjas.

[Harry Lime]

My seven year old will probably lose his mind for this.

That is so strange to me. There must have been a huge resurgence since the idea for a new movie was put on the table. 20 years ago I was that seven year old.

[Alex]

My seven year old will probably lose his mind for this.

That is so strange to me. There must have been a huge resurgence since the idea for a new movie was put on the table. 20 years ago (1994) I was that seven year old.

ftfy

[bada]

My seven year old will probably lose his mind for this.

That is so strange to me. There must have been a huge resurgence since the idea for a new movie was put on the table. 20 years ago I was that seven year old.

They released a new cgi-toon series in 2012 with a toy line. Most likely to drive interest in the new movie(s). Thats how they hooked my oldest. He watches the 80's show, the 2003 one and the 2012 one all the time plus the 5 movies.

[McParadigm]

Cartoon, you say? About turtles? And also they're ninjas?
Well, let me see...how do I imagine that playing out....

[stip]

They were such an important part of my childhood in such a disposable way that the bar will be pretty low for me to enjoy this.

This sentence makes far less sense to me than if it had read "They were an important part of my childhood, but in such a disposable way that I don't have any interest in seeing this."

And even I didn't think that trailer was any good

The funniest trend in modern action movie marketing is the need to take every silly subject available and try to sell it as visceral or dramatic adult-level violence. This one might just win the prize, if that "we borrowed some footage from the Dark Knight Rises to get this done in time" trailer is to be believed.

They are turtles. And also ninjas.

The thing with the turtles is that they were ALSO a super serious violent as hell adult (read: early teenager) focused comic before the cartoons. So that's not entirely coming out of left field, but it's also tricky to mix those two tones.

I meant disposable (not a well chosen word) in that I loved them in all their forms, and the idea of them, but not in a way that created any lasting attachments to a particular take on them. I was just happy with their existence. I really enjoyed the goofy comics, the cartoon, the serious comics. Even the fucking movies. So it's not like star wars where I loved it, but my love of it was predicated on a particular presentation of the characters/world/etc.

[stip]

actually, come to think of it, Michael Bay may very well be the right kind of person to mix those two worlds.

[bada]

I have a feeling its going to be way too violent and I'm going to have to tell my kid he can't watch it.

[Alex]

[Harry Lime]

Good article:

Is Watching Movies Too Hard, or Are Audiences Getting Soft?

At The Dissolve, Noel Murray uses recent remarks by National Association of Theater Owners president and CEO John Fithian to delve into what Pauline Kael once called "fear of movies": the prevailing sentiment among the culturally curious that they'd rather not see movies that are going to make them feel bad, and if they do, they'd rather watch them at home. That's what Fithian did with 12 Years a Slave, which he said was "too unequivocally intense to watch in a cinema."


I do wonder though about Fithian’s compromise regarding 12 Years A Slave. He acknowledges the greatness of the film, and says that everyone should see it, just maybe at home, where, to quote Kael, they can “remain in control.” And how do they do that? Just the ability to pause a movie at any time helps a viewer feel empowered, and perhaps less anxious. But I also see a lot of people using social media to help maintain that distance Kael mentions. "Livetweeting" -- or even just the occasional remark on Twitter or Facebook while watching a movie -- is a good way to hold a movie at arm's length, to make the film itself subordinate to whatever the viewer has to say about it, from moment to moment.

Murray's right that the key is less the choice of venue than the issue of control, or, as he later puts it, "surrender." I'd put it in less romantic terms: subservience. When you watch a movie -- and I mean actively watch, not just clock the requisite two hours in front of a screen -- you agree to submit to its vision. If you don't, or can't, you might as well get up and leave. That's not to say you should just like back and let it roll over you, but even if you're fighting against a film, you should do it from the inside out.

Jean-Luc Godard, among others, has argued that there's a fundamental difference between watching movies in a theater and watching them at home: “When you go to the cinema you look up, when you watch television you look down.” But nowadays, people look down at the cinema as well: either gazing from the heights of stadium seating or sneaking a peek at the cell phone in their lap. They expect total command of their environment, whether that means talking as if they're still in their living rooms or hissing at every reminder that the theater contains bodies other than their own.

Murray judiciously shies away from devolving into a "'you're watching it wrong' harangue," so allow me to say it for him: If you're not giving yourself to a movie with everything you have; if you reach for the pause button every time you see something that might scare or upset you; if you advertise your purported superiority to a film from another culture or a different era by loudly snickering every time it doesn't something heightened or unfamiliar; if you stop Schindler's List for a fucking taco break, you are, in fact Watching It Wrong. If you can't submit to a movie about the 400-year institution of slavery because you're worried it might be too upsetting, not only are you watching it wrong, but you should be hit with something large and heavy.

As theatrical exhibition is shoved into the digital age, the differences between the screens are shrinking. A 1080p television has roughly the same resolution as a 2K projector, although the levels of compression in the source are different, and most Blu-rays feature uncompressed theatrical soundtracks. (Plus at home, you know the management will respond if you complain.) But in a theater, at least in principle, you're seated among a group of people who have collectively agreed to put aside their other concerns for a period of time and devote their full attention to what's in front of them. You don't get to pause the film to throw laundry in the dryer or answer a quick email; you don't have to keep one hand on the remote in case the music gets too loud or things start exploding. You can replicate those conditions at home, of course: Draw the blinds, put your laptop to sleep, let your calls go to voicemail. But it takes a greater act of sustained will to turn your home into a cinema than to go to one. It's a little like the argument people make about "the experience" of listening to music on LPs: there's nothing preventing you from sitting down and listening to a 70 minute CD without interruption, but the cumbersome nature of a 12-inch vinyl disc forces your mind to switch gears.

As a film critic, what I mostly hear from my friends is a sense of vague regret about how rarely they see movies. But change the subject to TV, and the conversation picks up speed. There's nothing inherently wrong with this -- I could talk "The Good Wife" for hours -- but it's hard to escape that one of the reasons that TV has surpassed film in terms of cultural currency is simply because it's easier to digest. The most nail-biting episode is over in an hour, and there's a built-in escape valve at every commercial break. (Even premium-cable shows don't suffer much from interruption; excepting the occasional extended setpiece, you can pause Game of Thrones any time the story shifts locations without disrupting it unduly.) Is there a TV show "too unequivocally intense" to watch in a single sitting?

The point, to be clear, isn't that movies are better than TV -- seriously, let's not have any variation on that discussion ever again -- but that the shift towards home viewing means a move towards an on-demand paradigm. TV shows are watched when you want to watch them; miss an episode, and it'll be streaming by the time you get out of bed in the morning. Movies are moving that way as well. Increasingly, it seems, you hear people say that the only way to combat online piracy is to simultaneously release every movie in every window everywhere in the world: Give the people what they want when they want it, or they'll find another way. But art, as I've argued before, is meant to be inconvenient, not in the sense that you should have to scale a mountain or take out a new mortgage, but in the sense that you put your life, and your preconceptions, on hold and see the world through someone else's eyes. There's so much talk about what we demand from movies; what about what they demand from us?

[Harry Lime]

Goonies II

Story reportedly written by Spielberg.

[Rangi Guy]

Goonies II

Story reportedly written by Spielberg.

No guns - just walkie talkies

[malice]

Goonies II

Story reportedly written by Spielberg.

TOO MUCH CRYING