Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Lightning Bolt

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McParadigm wrote:
Chest Rockwell wrote:5. The PJ "formula" for an album - Fast opener, semi-ballad/ballad by song 4 or 5, spooky/experimental mid-section and then some overly-sentimental dad rock songs to close out the album.
Nothing grates me more than the fact that the band is so enamored of templated norms that they even have one for how to track their goddamn records.
Yeah it's really stupid
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Kaius wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Chest Rockwell wrote:5. The PJ "formula" for an album - Fast opener, semi-ballad/ballad by song 4 or 5, spooky/experimental mid-section and then some overly-sentimental dad rock songs to close out the album.
Nothing grates me more than the fact that the band is so enamored of templated norms that they even have one for how to track their goddamn records.
Yeah it's really stupid
While there's alot of upsides to having 5 songwriters in the band, this is one of the downsides. While I don't believe the band has been on autopilot by any means in terms of coming up with songs and the live show, they've fallen into a formula with tracklisting. My biggest problem with Lightning Bolt is tracklisting (which are also problems for me with Binaural, S/t, and Riot Act). They did great with song sequence with Yield (for which the aforementioned 'formula' first started) as well as Backspacer so it does work sometimes. I think it's the only way for the 5 of them to come to agreement on these things. To their defense, it's hard for 5 people to even order a pizza together, so I can't imagine how hard it must be to sequence the songs. Maybe they should just leave it to one member of the band to do it. Maybe they'll get it right one day......
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im pretty sure the "formula" started with ten/vs.
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warehouse wrote:im pretty sure the "formula" started with ten/vs.
It worked here so let's do it forever guys
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Release_Me wrote:
I probably like Getaway even more than I did when I first heard it. Their best rock song since Yield, possibly Vitalogy. Infallible is still my number 1 on the album though. And an overall top ten PJ song.
I agree, Getaway is one of my favorite rockers they've ever done. It's a classic as far as their rockers go. It's not too punky, not to poppy, it's got that classic PJ drive and Jeff/Matt are locked in and Ed is throwing all of himself into the vocals with abandon. I love it.
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stip wrote:L-bolt > Severed Hand > Unthought Known
OH heavens no.
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Got Some wrote:Getaway is incredible.

Top 10 song for me!!!
He means it's in his "top 10 songs on Lightning Bolt", right?

I mean, that must be it.
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Birds in Hell wrote:
Got Some wrote:Getaway is incredible.

Top 10 song for me!!!
He means it's in his "top 10 songs on Lightning Bolt", right?

I mean, that must be it.
Wrong again.
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Getaway is great. A top 20 PJ song for me. Infallible is the definite top 10 song on this album. Pendulum is another top 20. Yellow Moon and MFS are just outside my top 20 but still great.
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Tuolumne wrote:
Release_Me wrote:
I probably like Getaway even more than I did when I first heard it. Their best rock song since Yield, possibly Vitalogy. Infallible is still my number 1 on the album though. And an overall top ten PJ song.
I agree, Getaway is one of my favorite rockers they've ever done. It's a classic as far as their rockers go. It's not too punky, not to poppy, it's got that classic PJ drive and Jeff/Matt are locked in and Ed is throwing all of himself into the vocals with abandon. I love it.
Getaway is way too fuckin poppy.
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McParadigm wrote:Lizards say we're making love like the fossils
Try and say that science ain't profound
Dude, have you been tested for dyslexia?
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Dude, no I haven't.
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Getaway is pretty good. Definitely feels like a Yield era song to me (a lot of the songs on Lightning Bolt seem like they could fit in with the songs from past albums)
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McParadigm wrote:Dude, no I haven't.
Those lyrics were all wrong.
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Thejambi wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Dude, no I haven't.
Those lyrics were all wrong.
Don't tell me, tell Ed.
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McParadigm wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Dude, no I haven't.
Those lyrics were all wrong.
Don't tell me, tell Ed.
Who do you think I am talking to ?
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Oh.

Oh I see.

Then I'm just butting in, and that's incredibly rude.

So sorry.
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I love you.
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Not now.

Later, when they've gone.
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