Match FU: Smile vs. Black

tommymtcom · Post by **tommymtcom** » Mon March 31, 2014 8:46 pm

Stip, I blame you for this. You should have said you were voting for Smile.

Post by **stip** » Mon March 31, 2014 9:19 pm

I thought about that, but no one would believe me.

PHATJ · Post by **PHATJ** » Tue April 01, 2014 12:33 am

Fuck this bat shit crazy place. Smile is a mid tier song. Black is an all time classic. You fuckers have gone completely bonkers. RM!!!

William Bloke · Post by **William Bloke** » Tue April 01, 2014 12:54 am

Ima change my vote here...

Birds in Hell · Post by **Birds in Hell** » Tue April 01, 2014 1:12 am

It's the melodramatic overwroughtness of Black that knocks it down a few pegs for me.

"Now my bitter hands cradle broken glass..."

I mean, SERIOUSLY.

*mimes playing tiny violin*

thesound · Post by **thesound** » Tue April 01, 2014 1:13 am

Is Smile winning on 'protest' votes!?

I'm assuming it is a matter of preferring to hear Smile over Black these days rather than people actually thinking it is a stronger song.
Every song match I end up using different criteria to vote - it is hard when you know a song is better but you prefer to listen to another more often.

I can understand people getting sick of hearing Black played over and over or that it has turned into a sing-a-long song live or even that they just want to let another song have a chance winning the contest. In fact I would probably prefer to listen to Smile over Black these days - but Black is definitely the stronger song and better lyrics. I enjoy Smile a lot but it isn't amongst the best songs on No Code.

In the end I don't mind either way which song wins.

BurtReynolds · Post by **BurtReynolds** » Tue April 01, 2014 1:17 am

Nothing against Black, but Smile is more real.

also, click this link and read the first comment and tell me this song isn't the best choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA6kYFeLAs4

thesound · Post by **thesound** » Tue April 01, 2014 1:27 am

BurtReynolds wrote:Nothing against Black, but Smile is more real.

I can agree with this.

Post by **stip** » Tue April 01, 2014 1:37 am

Birds in Hell wrote:It's the melodramatic overwroughtness of Black that knocks it down a few pegs for me.

"Now my bitter hands cradle broken glass..."

I mean, SERIOUSLY.

*mimes playing tiny violin*

everyone's had that moment of utter desperate loss during a breakup. And it seems silly after the fact. But nothing feels more real at the time

Post by **Jorge** » Tue April 01, 2014 1:39 am

We've all had our doodoodoodoo doodoodoos.

Post by **stip** » Tue April 01, 2014 1:41 am

exactly!

Birds in Hell · Post by **Birds in Hell** » Tue April 01, 2014 2:06 am

stip wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:It's the melodramatic overwroughtness of Black that knocks it down a few pegs for me.

"Now my bitter hands cradle broken glass..."

I mean, SERIOUSLY.

*mimes playing tiny violin*
everyone's had that moment of utter desperate loss during a breakup. And it seems silly after the fact. But nothing feels more real at the time

That's fine if the lyrics ring true to that experience but Black's don't, at least not for me - they're so ham-fisted and cheesy, almost comically so.

I think Smile is the better song by some margin.

William Bloke · Post by **William Bloke** » Tue April 01, 2014 2:12 am

theplatypus wrote:We've all had our doodoodoodoo doodoodoos.

We were all singing along to that in Perth in 2006 as Black was tailing off and my mate looks at me, deadpan, and says "Dude - you sound like a fucking dove". Cracked me up.

LetMeSleep · Post by **LetMeSleep** » Tue April 01, 2014 2:17 am

Varis wrote:
theplatypus wrote:We've all had our doodoodoodoo doodoodoos.
We were all singing along to that in Perth in 2006 as Black was tailing off and my mate looks at me, deadpan, and says "Dude - you sound like a fucking dove". Cracked me up.

Iholdthepain · Post by **Iholdthepain** » Tue April 01, 2014 3:21 am

If Black was released on LB, all you fuckers would be giving it shit...

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Tue April 01, 2014 9:37 am

Iholdthepain wrote:If Black was released on LB, all you fuckers would be giving it shit...

If Black was released on LB, it would sound like a Shaina Twain/Bon Jovi/Coldplay mashup.

brisjam · Post by **brisjam** » Tue April 01, 2014 11:30 am

Birds in Hell wrote:
stip wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:It's the melodramatic overwroughtness of Black that knocks it down a few pegs for me.

"Now my bitter hands cradle broken glass..."

I mean, SERIOUSLY.

*mimes playing tiny violin*
everyone's had that moment of utter desperate loss during a breakup. And it seems silly after the fact. But nothing feels more real at the time
That's fine if the lyrics ring true to that experience but Black's don't, at least not for me - they're so ham-fisted and cheesy, almost comically so.

I think Smile is the better song by some margin.

Well first let me say I am a fan of "smile". Killer tune musically.

But you are kidding complaining about the lyrics to black compared to smile. I'd be surprised if smile cracks the 100 mark for words and half of those are "Don't it make you smile" repeated a half dozen or so times - lyrical monster!

Black on the other hand is almost perfection. If you can't relate to it than that's probably a good thing. but any song with this in it:
"I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why
Can't it be, can't it be mine"
Is going to hit home with a lot of people at some point or another.

Then again the sun don't shine right now and I do miss it already....

McParadigm · Post by **McParadigm** » Tue April 01, 2014 11:48 am

"I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why

Stupid Ed doesn't know how skies work

Thejambi · Post by **Thejambi** » Tue April 01, 2014 12:25 pm

Iholdthepain wrote:If Black was released on LB, all you fuckers would be giving it shit...

Black is on Lightning Bolt!

William Bloke · Post by **William Bloke** » Tue April 01, 2014 12:32 pm

brisjam wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
stip wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:It's the melodramatic overwroughtness of Black that knocks it down a few pegs for me.

"Now my bitter hands cradle broken glass..."

I mean, SERIOUSLY.

*mimes playing tiny violin*
everyone's had that moment of utter desperate loss during a breakup. And it seems silly after the fact. But nothing feels more real at the time
That's fine if the lyrics ring true to that experience but Black's don't, at least not for me - they're so ham-fisted and cheesy, almost comically so.

I think Smile is the better song by some margin.

Well first let me say I am a fan of "smile". Killer tune musically.

But you are kidding complaining about the lyrics to black compared to smile. I'd be surprised if smile cracks the 100 mark for words and half of those are "Don't it make you smile" repeated a half dozen or so times - lyrical monster!

Black on the other hand is almost perfection. If you can't relate to it than that's probably a good thing. but any song with this in it:
"I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why
Can't it be, can't it be mine"
Is going to hit home with a lot of people at some point or another.

Then again the sun don't shine right now and I do miss it already....

Yep. Pretty great lines there. Regardless of anything else, the emotion that he pulls from that little refrain is magnificent.

Champagne songwriting.

Red Mosquito

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