How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Sat April 19, 2014 3:45 am

What clunkers on Reckoning?

Kaius · Post by **Kaius** » Sat April 19, 2014 3:52 am

chud, I am in the middle of an LAL, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT

Kaius · Post by **Kaius** » Sat April 19, 2014 4:56 am

I'd say So. Central Rain, Pretty Persuasion, and Second Guessing are all tracks that feel like a chore to listen to,...or clunkers

Post by **stip** » Sat April 19, 2014 12:51 pm

pretty persuasion and second guessing are my bottom two. Camera as well is a bit overlong. So. Central Rain is one of my all time favorites though. It, Harborcoat, Letter Never Sent, and Little America are my favorites on Reckoning.

Kevin Davis · Post by **Kevin Davis** » Sat April 19, 2014 1:04 pm

''Camera'' is definitely the low point on ''Reckoning'' for me, but I don't think I would call it a clunker. Everything else is A+ or just below. Check out the ''Live at the Olympia'' versions of some of those tunes if you're on the fence about them--the extra precision in them compared to the studio versions might be just enough to push them over the edge for you.

Kalevi · Post by **Kalevi** » Sat April 19, 2014 1:29 pm

Kevin Davis wrote:''Camera'' is definitely the low point on ''Reckoning'' for me, but I don't think I would call it a clunker. Everything else is A+ or just below. Check out the ''Live at the Olympia'' versions of some of those tunes if you're on the fence about them--the extra precision in them compared to the studio versions might be just enough to push them over the edge for you.

Yes

Kaius · Post by **Kaius** » Sat April 19, 2014 1:30 pm

Kevin Davis wrote:''Camera'' is definitely the low point on ''Reckoning'' for me, but I don't think I would call it a clunker. Everything else is A+ or just below. Check out the ''Live at the Olympia'' versions of some of those tunes if you're on the fence about them--the extra precision in them compared to the studio versions might be just enough to push them over the edge for you.

will do

Lament · Post by **Lament** » Sat April 19, 2014 3:35 pm

Kaius wrote:I'd say So. Central Rain, Pretty Persuasion, and Second Guessing are all tracks that feel like a chore to listen to,...or clunkers

Damn. So. Central Rain is an all-time favorite.

I may just listen to nothing but R.E.M. when I'm driving through Georgia today. It's too bad the unplugged set is vinyl only. I guess I'll have to wait for someone to put it up on the internet.

Post by **epilogue** » Sat April 19, 2014 3:37 pm

stip wrote:Oh man, Pageant is my favorite. It's quite possibly my third favorite REM album overall. Begin the Begin, These Days, Fall on Me, I Believe, What if We Give it Away, Swan Swan H, Superman...

I'm not sure that I've heard all the early records. But Pageant is easily my favorite of the earlies.

Post by **stip** » Sat April 19, 2014 3:43 pm

Live at the Olympia is my favorite live cd ever

Lament · Post by **Lament** » Sat April 19, 2014 3:48 pm

Is it really that good? R.E.M. Live from a few years earlier was really disappointing.

Kevin Davis · Post by **Kevin Davis** » Sat April 19, 2014 4:27 pm

Lament wrote:Is it really that good? R.E.M. Live from a few years earlier was really disappointing.

Oh man, night and day. ''Live at the Olympia'' is the sound of a band reinvigorated, having spent a decade experimenting with effects and textures and all of a sudden remembering how much fun it is to play rock and roll. They're in great humor the whole time, and they rip through their IRS material and deep cuts from their Warners albums with both passion and reverence--and after their first three post-Berry albums hearing them mine that body of work feels more like an exercise in creative research than a nostalgia trip. Really, it's a thing to behold.

Post by **Jorge** » Sat April 19, 2014 4:44 pm

I agree. That's a really great live album.

Kaius · Post by **Kaius** » Sat April 19, 2014 7:30 pm

stip wrote:pretty persuasion and second guessing are my bottom two. Camera as well is a bit overlong. So. Central Rain is one of my all time favorites though. It, Harborcoat, Letter Never Sent, and Little America are my favorites on Reckoning.

Little America, Harborcoat, and Letter Never Sent are great tunes!

Kevin Davis wrote:''Camera'' is definitely the low point on ''Reckoning'' for me, but I don't think I would call it a clunker. Everything else is A+ or just below. Check out the ''Live at the Olympia'' versions of some of those tunes if you're on the fence about them--the extra precision in them compared to the studio versions might be just enough to push them over the edge for you.

Clunker may have been a strong word. I just meant they bore me.

Lament wrote:
Kaius wrote:I'd say So. Central Rain, Pretty Persuasion, and Second Guessing are all tracks that feel like a chore to listen to,...or clunkers
Damn. So. Central Rain is an all-time favorite.

I may just listen to nothing but R.E.M. when I'm driving through Georgia today. It's too bad the unplugged set is vinyl only. I guess I'll have to wait for someone to put it up on the internet.

It's not a bad song. Like I said, I may have misused "clunker". It just doesnt seem to add much to their catalogue in terms of diversity or memorability to my ears, so it kind of blends in with a group of songs that I find very similar.

Most of you have likely heard these songs much more than I have, picking up on the more subtle differences or grown to love them more by hearing them live. I definitely can appreciate that.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Sun April 20, 2014 1:23 am

Kaius wrote:I'd say So. Central Rain, Pretty Persuasion, and Second Guessing are all tracks that feel like a chore to listen to,...or clunkers

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Sun April 20, 2014 1:24 am

Kevin Davis wrote:the sound of a band reinvigorated, having spent a decade experimenting with effects and textures and all of a sudden remembering how much fun it is to play rock and roll.

sounds like stip describing post riot act Pearl Jam

Post by **stip** » Sun April 20, 2014 1:33 am

I knew I liked that post for a reason

And everyone is correct. It's in a whole other ballpark

Kevin Davis · Post by **Kevin Davis** » Sun April 20, 2014 8:45 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:the sound of a band reinvigorated, having spent a decade experimenting with effects and textures and all of a sudden remembering how much fun it is to play rock and roll.
sounds like stip describing post riot act Pearl Jam

I wish Pearl Jam had a record post-''Riot Act'' as spirited as ''Live at the Olympia.'' For all their dabbling in affect circa 1996-2004 or so, they always had a live career running concurrently that was more or less the same thing year after year (in terms of musical approach, anyway), so the idea that they might have this moment of clarity that would cause them to come out swinging like a 20 year-old garage band seems unlikely.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Mon April 21, 2014 12:20 am

Kevin Davis wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:the sound of a band reinvigorated, having spent a decade experimenting with effects and textures and all of a sudden remembering how much fun it is to play rock and roll.
sounds like stip describing post riot act Pearl Jam
I wish Pearl Jam had a record post-''Riot Act'' as spirited as ''Live at the Olympia.'' For all their dabbling in affect circa 1996-2004 or so, they always had a live career running concurrently that was more or less the same thing year after year (in terms of musical approach, anyway), so the idea that they might have this moment of clarity that would cause them to come out swinging like a 20 year-old garage band seems unlikely.

I know.

Lament · Post by **Lament** » Wed April 23, 2014 6:58 pm

May 19th for the CD/Digital release of the MTV Unplugged Set...

http://remhq.com/news_story.php?id=1981

Red Mosquito

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