Can we talk about the sterling/silver thing?

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lowlight79 wrote:Some people I heard on the radio today stated the girlfriend is working for Magic Johnson to get Sterling on tape so he could buy the clippers.
Typical American conspiracy theory bullshit.
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Yea judging by the crime shows I watch that can be done.. sterling is an asshole, that's obvious.. but that whore prob baited him n should serve time also
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i got bugs wrote:If I were him I would say it wasn't me n the golddigger probably hired someone who sounds like me and had another friend doctor it up on a computer.. The bitch was trying to blackmail me for a ton of cash

Being that the conversation is entrapment in the first place n is illegal, I don't see how I lose
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
i got bugs wrote:If I were him I would say it wasn't me n the golddigger probably hired someone who sounds like me and had another friend doctor it up on a computer.. The bitch was trying to blackmail me for a ton of cash

Being that the conversation is entrapment in the first place n is illegal, I don't see how I lose
Apparently he knew she recorded him often because he forgot things frequently and had his conversations recorded.
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Lament gave a good breakdown, but I still have a problem with private conversations being investigated. But regardless, Sterling had it coming.

And let's be clear about the whole, "how can Jay-Z get away with it?" argument. The black demographic gravitates more to the NBA than any other sports organization. I don't have statistics on that, but I'm willing to bet that's a fact. Inviting Jay-Z to be a part of the NBA only helps its image, and God forbid that they refuse him, or else, you know, it might be racist.

What happened when Lil Wayne was turned away trying to enter a Thunder playoff game without a ticket last year? He cited racism.

I'm just saying that the black demographic can get away with a lot more. It doesn't matter the degree of controversy: Profane, offensive lyrics vs. Sterling's comments. It's the truth. So be it, doesn't ruin my day.
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Being unfamiliar with most of Jay Z's work, could someone cite some examples of his lyrics that approach the level of virulent racism expressed by Sterling?
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And Lament is right about misogynistic lyrics being a false equivalency. Sterling was talking about bringing blacks to his games, which is why the NBA's response is warranted.

The recorded conversation getting out is creepy, yes. But once it's out, private organizations are entitled to react.
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theplatypus wrote:And Lament is right about misogynistic lyrics being a false equivalency. Sterling was talking about bringing blacks to his games, which is why the NBA's response is warranted.

The recorded conversation getting out is creepy, yes. But once it's out, private organizations are entitled to react.
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I have Thodoks going on a 20-minute rant about tipping culture that got pretty intensely racist. Holding on to it for the remaster series.
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theplatypus wrote:I have Thodoks going on a 20-minute rant about tipping culture that got pretty intensely racist. Holding on to it for the remaster series.
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"I should have just paid her off." - Sterling

Well, your dumbass did date a woman 60 years younger than you. I'm sure she loved you for your charm.
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Harry Lime wrote:Lament gave a good breakdown, but I still have a problem with private conversations being investigated. But regardless, Sterling had it coming.

And let's be clear about the whole, "how can Jay-Z get away with it?" argument. The black demographic gravitates more to the NBA than any other sports organization. I don't have statistics on that, but I'm willing to bet that's a fact. Inviting Jay-Z to be a part of the NBA only helps its image, and God forbid that they refuse him, or else, you know, it might be racist.

What happened when Lil Wayne was turned away trying to enter a Thunder playoff game without a ticket last year? He cited racism.

I'm just saying that the black demographic can get away with a lot more. It doesn't matter the degree of controversy: Profane, offensive lyrics vs. Sterling's comments. It's the truth. So be it, doesn't ruin my day.
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And thank you to Jason Whitlock for helping me get to the point of it all. And that highlighted part is directed towards guys like you, chud:
ESPN columnist Jason Whitlock checked in with Dennis & Callahan on Wednesday morning to discuss his column questioning the NBA’s decision to issue a lifetime suspension to Clippers owner Donald Sterling for his racist comments. To hear the interview, go to the Dennis & Callahan audio on demand page.

Whitlock, who is black, wrote that removing Sterling from the league “solves nothing,” because it does not address the bigger issue of society’s culture problem.

“I don’t think my point is counter. I think it’s looking further down the line than the mob that ran Donald Sterling out of basketball was looking,” Whitlock said. “Listen, Donald Sterling put it on the table and addressed the culture that he felt had put pressure on him to be racist. I think addressing that culture that I think a lot of people think doesn’t exist that Donald Sterling has said does exist, I think that was important and a blown opportunity.

“I do think that a dangerous precedent has been set by taking this man’s private conversation and using it to run him out of basketball. I think that’s a dangerous, slippery slope. And if I think people were honest they would say that’s something that could blow back and burn all of us. Because I think in private we’re all capable — especially if we think we’ve been hurt in a relationship or at any time in any way hurt — we could all say stupid things said in private in the heat of the moment that if broadcast to the world would make us all look very stupid and ignorant.”

Whitlock noted that Sterling has come a long way since his early days of ownership.

“I disagree with removing the guy for life. And this is a big, complicated issue, but I look at Donald Sterling moreobjectively and I think more fairly than most,” Whitlock said. “The guy’s 80 years old. He has evolved and done the best that he can. He has a head coach/general manager that I think is maybe the highest-paid coach in the NBA, Doc Rivers, who is African-American, that he’s basically put in charge of his organization and is paid at the highest level.

“He’s got a team with Chris Paul, one of the biggest stars, and Blake Griffin, another one of the biggest stars. So, this guy has gone from ignoring his team, dealing with his organization in perhaps a bigoted fashion and has evolved from that to putting a good product on the court that is more fair to African-Americans. And he’s clearly done a few things that have pleased the Los Angeles NAACP enough for them to give him two lifetime achievement awards.”


Whitlock said we’re missing a great opportunity to continue this discussion by eliminating Sterling from the situation.

“I don’t agree with [Sterling's comments]. It’s abhorrent and grotesque. But I just don’t think that he’s alone. And I don’t think that it means that somehow he must be removed from society, he can’t be a peer amongst us,” Whitlock said. “I just would have perhaps not given him a lifetime ban — a ban of five years. I would have tried to put some systems in place to help Donald Sterling and the Clippers organization evolve even further as it relates to diversity and opportunities for African-Americans rather than just removing him from society.

“Particularly, this was really unfair to take private conversations broadcasted publicly by TMZ and use those against him.”

Added Whitlock: “I felt like he was a pawn and a tool for people to look fair-minded and righteous and courageous. A lot of it’s baloney. Because if we really opened our eyes to what he said and what he put on the table for us to discuss and we’re all avoiding, I don’t think we’re so courageous.… I get the anger and I get why the mob gathered. But cooler heads should have prevailed and a more strategic approach should have been taken.”
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And Daft, Whitlock's comments help back up your point. Barkley agreed as well.
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Harry Lime wrote:"I should have just paid her off." - Sterling
No shit.

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If I got to play on an nba team, I could give a fuck less if the owner openly hated white people

As long as the checks were coming in n I can bang a different model every night, who really gives a shit
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i got bugs wrote:If I got to play on an nba team, I could give a fuck less if the owner openly hated white people

As long as the checks were coming in n I can bang a different model every night, who really gives a shit
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i got bugs wrote:If I got to play on an nba team, I could give a fuck less if the owner openly hated white people

As long as the checks were coming in n I can bang a different model every night, who really gives a shit
If I were an eighty-something year old billionaire who got to own an NBA team, I couldn't give a fuck less if my twenty-something year old girlfriend posted pictures of herself with black people on instagram or brought black people to my team's games.

As long as I kept making shitloads of money and I could bang a girl fifty-something years younger than me in the rare instance I get an erection, who really gives a shit?
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