How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Post by **epilogue** » Sat May 03, 2014 6:49 pm

Up is a terrific record. Just fantastic.

Post by **stip** » Sat May 03, 2014 7:11 pm

Look, at the bare minimum they're all at least really good. It's just that I think up is really good and I think Accelerate is great.

Post by **epilogue** » Sat May 03, 2014 7:28 pm

stip wrote:Look, at the bare minimum they're all at least really good. It's just that I think up is really good and I think Accelerate is great.

Sure, sure. And folks will pick on you for that. But fuck 'em!

I remember Accelerate being a fairly mediocre record. I wouldn't even call it really good. But I need to revisit that one. It's been a while. Up, however, I listen to often and I think it's stellar.

But I ain't gonna hate anyone saying the opposite or digging on Accelerate.

Post by **stip** » Sat May 03, 2014 7:32 pm

Up's got a few too many dud songs for me (and even a few stick out like sore thumb on an REM record)--and in general I think this is the album where I am the least in love with Stipe's vocals.

Accelerate may benefit from an S/T style bump for me where it is an aggressive and energetic record I wasn't sure they still had in them. But it's also such a sharp quick angular listen, and almost every song is really good.

Plus I'm Gonna DJ has one of my favorite bass parts ever.

Post by **epilogue** » Sat May 03, 2014 7:45 pm

stip wrote:Up's got a few too many dud songs for me (and even a few stick out like sore thumb on an REM record)--and in general I think this is the album where I am the least in love with Stipe's vocals.

That makes total sense to me. For you, I mean.

Kaius · Post by **Kaius** » Sat May 03, 2014 8:49 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Monster is so fucking good.

The Out of Time-Automatic-Monster-Hi Fi run is about as good as it gets.
Expand that to include Green and Up.

I don't think Green is on the big boy level, though it shows flashes. I plan on getting into the post-berry stuff tonight after work.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Sat May 03, 2014 8:52 pm

Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Monster is so fucking good.

The Out of Time-Automatic-Monster-Hi Fi run is about as good as it gets.
Expand that to include Green and Up.
I don't think Green is on the big boy level, though it shows flashes. I plan on getting into the post-berry stuff tonight after work.

Green is absolutely on the big boy level.

Post by **stip** » Sat May 03, 2014 9:01 pm

You know what. Let's just start and not have a time limit until monday

Post by **stip** » Sat May 03, 2014 9:01 pm

Whoops

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Sat May 03, 2014 9:10 pm

Let's go Lament!

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Sat May 03, 2014 9:11 pm

whoops

Kaius · Post by **Kaius** » Sat May 03, 2014 9:26 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Monster is so fucking good.

The Out of Time-Automatic-Monster-Hi Fi run is about as good as it gets.
Expand that to include Green and Up.
I don't think Green is on the big boy level, though it shows flashes. I plan on getting into the post-berry stuff tonight after work.
Green is absolutely on the big boy level.

No, fuck you!

But seriously ... I'm usually not wrong about these things.

Post by **epilogue** » Sat May 03, 2014 9:46 pm

At the end of the day, I'm good. Because I've got my spine, I've got my orange crush.

Kaius · Post by **Kaius** » Sat May 03, 2014 9:57 pm

Orange Crush really stands out. Easily the best song.

Kevin Davis · Post by **Kevin Davis** » Sat May 03, 2014 10:32 pm

stip wrote:Up's got a few too many dud songs for me (and even a few stick out like sore thumb on an REM record)--and in general I think this is the album where I am the least in love with Stipe's vocals.

Accelerate may benefit from an S/T style bump for me where it is an aggressive and energetic record I wasn't sure they still had in them. But it's also such a sharp quick angular listen, and almost every song is really good.

Plus I'm Gonna DJ has one of my favorite bass parts ever.

''Accelerate'' is a tremendous record--''S/T'' is a credible comparison in terms of the role it was intended to play in the band's career but ''Accelerate'' is just so much better, nimble and effortless where ''S/T'' mostly just feels cumbersome and forced. It's like ''Reckoning'' and ''Life's Rich Pageant'' only with twenty more years of songwriting experience and band communication behind it, and after ''Live at the Olympia'' it's clear how much study of that old music went into it. A spring-loaded burst of energy, and top-shelf REM in my opinion.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Sat May 03, 2014 11:04 pm

Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Monster is so fucking good.

The Out of Time-Automatic-Monster-Hi Fi run is about as good as it gets.
Expand that to include Green and Up.
I don't think Green is on the big boy level, though it shows flashes. I plan on getting into the post-berry stuff tonight after work.
Green is absolutely on the big boy level.
No, fuck you!

But seriously ... I'm usually not wrong about these things.

Green might be better than Out Of Time, and I love Out Of Time.

Post by **stip** » Sat May 03, 2014 11:04 pm

I agree accelerate is better

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Sat May 03, 2014 11:05 pm

Kaius wrote:Orange Crush really stands out. Easily the best song.

You spelled You Are The Everything wrong.

Kaius · Post by **Kaius** » Sun May 04, 2014 1:21 am

cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:Orange Crush really stands out. Easily the best song.
You spelled You Are The Everything wrong.

Kevin Davis · Post by **Kevin Davis** » Sun May 04, 2014 1:29 am

I just listened to the first disc of ''Olympia''--crap they were an amazing band.

Red Mosquito

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