Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

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So what did you think (DcT edition)?

Best of all the films
8
9%
Better than A New Hope, Empire, the prequels, But not Jedi
2
2%
Better than A New Hope, Jedi, the prequels, but not Empire
6
7%
Better than Empire, Jedi, the Prequels, but not A New Hope
2
2%
Better than A New Hope and the prequels, but not Empire or Jedi
2
2%
Better than Empire and the prequels, but not A New Hope or Jedi
1
1%
Better than Jedi and the prequels, but not a New Hope or Empire
23
26%
As good as Empire, Jedi, and A New Hope, and better than the prequels
15
17%
Better than the prequels, but not the originals
15
17%
As good as some of the prequels
7
8%
As good as all of the prequels
2
2%
Worse than the prequels
5
6%
 
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yeah, it's REALLY awful. Easily the worst of all the additions, I think.
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not any worse than ewoks!
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The ewoks are ok.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
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darth_vedder wrote:The added scenes were largely pointless. This right here is one of the worst things in film history. Seriously, who the hell thought this was a good idea? It's embarrassing.

Yeah, anything that pulled me out of the original story is what pissed me off the most: that scene and Jabba in IV.
Second worst is changing the motivations of characters: Greedo shooting first b/c Han's too good of a guy.
Third is erasing work by original actors: Changing Boba Fett's voice and erasing old Anakin Skywalker in VI.

Most of the other other stuff, unless it looks stupid like the sand speeder flying into Mos Eisley, don't bother me much. In fact, I like the added windows in Cloud City and the added Stormtroopers in the Death Star.
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Oh, and that musical number is WAAAAAAAAAAY worse than Ewoks.
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dimejinky99 wrote:The ewoks are ok.
yeah, but you were a kid just like me when jedi came out, not a jaded thirtysomething.
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B wrote:In fact, I like the added windows in Cloud City and the added Stormtroopers in the Death Star.
Yep.
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I watched IV yesterday with my kids. The part where Obi talks about the Stormtroopers being more accurate than Tuskens with their blasters stood out as pretty stupid.
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That's in the original, though. Isn't it?


What is a good age to show Ellie Star Wars?
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dimejinky99 wrote:You're a great dad sarge :)

Just do your bank account a favour and don't tell them about all the toys :)
Thanks dime. :)
stip wrote:did you show the originals or the re-releases with all the extra stuff? I liked some of the enhanced effects but I was rarely a fan of the added scenes. I wonder if they are not as distracting if they're the first way you've seen the stor.
It's the first special edition release from sometime in the late 90's. There were some enhancements, but no where as many as the bluray version. Most of the ship battle scenes are the original model footage, with just a little CGI here and there. The biggest enhancement in this set is picture/sound quality. I've got the bluray version, but I wanted the boys to really experience the original trilogy in the original format first. We didn't even use the plasma TV, instead we sat on beanbags in the playroom and watched it on the old 68cm Trinitron. It was great. :D

In time, we'll watch all of the movies again on bluray on the proper home theatre setup, but I think introducing my boys to the original trilogy in a more "authentic" way (like most of us experienced as kids) is the best way to start off.

My oldest started talking about it more this morning as soon as he woke up. He's very enthralled with it all, and is keen on understanding the story properly. He has watched some of the Clone Wars episodes, so he knows some of the characters. But I had to explain about Obi Wan being much older in episode IV because it's set further into the future. He knew of Anakin too, so I explained that he is Luke's father. At this stage, he doesn't know that Anakin is Darth, so I'm a little excited about watching Empire with the boys next weekend and seeing how my oldest reacts to the reveal of Darth's true identify near the end.
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stip wrote:That's in the original, though. Isn't it?
It is, it's just original stupid. Kind of like the Luke/Leia kiss or Obi not recognising the droids.
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I made sure to get rips of the laser discs, which I understand are the actual original theatrical releases.
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zeb wrote:
stip wrote:That's in the original, though. Isn't it?
It is, it's just original stupid. Kind of like the Luke/Leia kiss or Obi not recognising the droids.
Look, it's perfectly reasonable for obi to try and forget the prequels
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zeb wrote:I made sure to get rips of the laser discs, which I understand are the actual original theatrical releases.
I've never been able to find any legit original copies in good condition. I'd love to see a cleaned up version of the original releases (i.e. no CGI at all, and just picture/sound enhancement, colour correction, corrected widescreen ratio, etc) on DVD or bluray.

They included the original releases with the 2004(?) release on DVD I believe, but it was terrible picture quality and screen ratio. George really doesn't want us to enjoy the movies as they were originally made, ever again. :(
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No. No he doesn't. :(
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stip wrote:That's in the original, though. Isn't it?


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zeb wrote:
stip wrote:That's in the original, though. Isn't it?
It is, it's just original stupid. Kind of like the Luke/Leia kiss or Obi not recognising the droids.
I'm sure the assumption is that he was pretending not to recognize them.

Sure beats "Oh, god. These fucking guys. I haven't seen these pieces of shit since your father grew his hair out and killed all those kids. He was a Jedi, you know. And the best star pilot in the galaxy. No, really...he even knew how to spin. That's a good trick. Anyway, yeah. A Jedi. Killed a bunch of kids. What else? Oh, he's Darth Vader now I guess. I haven't really kept in touch, but I'm sure it's still him in that suit. No, I never got one. They aren't standard issue. He only wears it because I beat the living fuck out of him. But enough of that. Let's talk about your sister..."
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Sgt. Crackpot wrote:I've never been able to find any legit original copies in good condition. I'd love to see a cleaned up version of the original releases (i.e. no CGI at all, and just picture/sound enhancement, colour correction, corrected widescreen ratio, etc) on DVD or bluray.
I think you want this. http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic. ... pic/12713/

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zeb wrote:
stip wrote:That's in the original, though. Isn't it?
It is, it's just original stupid. Kind of like the Luke/Leia kiss or Obi not recognizing the droids.
To be fair, that second one was only made stupid by the prequels.
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