Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

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So what did you think (DcT edition)?

Best of all the films
8
9%
Better than A New Hope, Empire, the prequels, But not Jedi
2
2%
Better than A New Hope, Jedi, the prequels, but not Empire
6
7%
Better than Empire, Jedi, the Prequels, but not A New Hope
2
2%
Better than A New Hope and the prequels, but not Empire or Jedi
2
2%
Better than Empire and the prequels, but not A New Hope or Jedi
1
1%
Better than Jedi and the prequels, but not a New Hope or Empire
23
26%
As good as Empire, Jedi, and A New Hope, and better than the prequels
15
17%
Better than the prequels, but not the originals
15
17%
As good as some of the prequels
7
8%
As good as all of the prequels
2
2%
Worse than the prequels
5
6%
 
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stip wrote:I still think he was an excellent choice for these movies

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As long as Abrams understands what fucking sucked about the prequels and what Lucas did to ruin the originals....

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I would have gone with Nolan though. Boom
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He's the batman director right? he would have been great for this.
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Here’s a kind of convoluted rumor for you to chew on as we continue to wait for no news about Star Wars: Episode VII. According to an interesting e-mail we’ve intercepted, and which purports to come from within Disney’s marketing department, the studio are planning to re-release A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi on DVD/Blu-Ray/On Demand in their original form, without all the things George Lucas changed for the “Special Edition” releases back in 2004.

The new trilogy is going to be very closely tied to the original (and not so much the prequels, if you’re reading between the lines) and will be marketed as a direct sequel to those, so this particular re-release strategy makes a certain sense.

Going forward and looking at the much bigger picture, there are more dubious rumors to consider, like Disney potentially phasing out the prequel trilogy by lumping them in with the “Legends” non-canon fodder. This has apparently been the subject of gossip near Disney, though it’s very possibly just that – gossip amongst the worker bees. Anyway, it would allow for a reboot of sorts, with new prequel movies featuring Yoda, Darth Vader, etc.

But like I said, that rumour is much more dubious. Sure, they probably don’t want people to think too closely how disappointing the last three Star Wars films were in the run up to a new release, but to erase them from canon… would be a totally different story.

For now, though, there is room to remain hopeful about a new original trilogy re-release.

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Hope that's true about the blu-ray release of the originals...

be interesting to see if Disney allow Han to shoot first
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if there is money to be made disney will find a way to make it. They know there is a market for this, and they don't give a shit about Lucas' true vision
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It'll do well no matter what, but fans skepticism over the choice of director and brand toxicity from the prequel trilogy do leave Disney with a lot of work to do.
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dimejinky99 wrote:He's the batman director right? he would have been great for this.
he would have been terrible, I think. Star Wars is a bright, straight ahead universe. His aesthetic is too dark and too cerebral for this.
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dimejinky99 wrote:It'll do well no matter what, but fans skepticism over the choice of director and brand toxicity from the prequel trilogy do leave Disney with a lot of work to do.
oh, I meant with the cleaned up original releases.
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Those star trek movies were basically shot like star wars movies. Abrams is gonna do great. The only thing that could hurt him (that would hurt anyone, I think) is that so many people have built up the idea of star wars in their head to the point that it is something closer to a platonic form than an actual movie.

The originals were really really fun, well told adventure stories with great special effects in a fantastic setting. But that's it. I don't mean to diminish what that is, because Star Wars did it maybe better than anyone, but there are not interesting philosophic questions raised. There are not tremendous psychological character studies. There are not important political themes that resonant with today. Nolan's Star Wars movies would reinvent them into something they aren't really meant to be, I think. The expanded universe books are often darker in tone (those I've read, but that was a long time ago) but they aren't what people think of when they think of Star Wars either.

I wish Steven Speilberg was directing these. Since he's not, I think Abrams is a great choice
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Spielberg would have been interesting too..
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Is Abrams just one for VII or is he supposed to do the whole trilogy?
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think so yeah. At least there'd be a consistent style in that case...
doesnt mean nolan/speilberg or anyone else cant direct the spin off movies that are also happenning
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Original Trilogy had 3 different directors and no one every complains about that.
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dimejinky99 wrote:Here’s a kind of convoluted rumor for you to chew on as we continue to wait for no news about Star Wars: Episode VII. According to an interesting e-mail we’ve intercepted, and which purports to come from within Disney’s marketing department, the studio are planning to re-release A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi on DVD/Blu-Ray/On Demand in their original form, without all the things George Lucas changed for the “Special Edition” releases back in 2004.

The new trilogy is going to be very closely tied to the original (and not so much the prequels, if you’re reading between the lines) and will be marketed as a direct sequel to those, so this particular re-release strategy makes a certain sense.

Going forward and looking at the much bigger picture, there are more dubious rumors to consider, like Disney potentially phasing out the prequel trilogy by lumping them in with the “Legends” non-canon fodder. This has apparently been the subject of gossip near Disney, though it’s very possibly just that – gossip amongst the worker bees. Anyway, it would allow for a reboot of sorts, with new prequel movies featuring Yoda, Darth Vader, etc.

But like I said, that rumour is much more dubious. Sure, they probably don’t want people to think too closely how disappointing the last three Star Wars films were in the run up to a new release, but to erase them from canon… would be a totally different story.

For now, though, there is room to remain hopeful about a new original trilogy re-release.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/05/15/ ... -and-more/
I actually like this idea. I rarely am a fan of re-makes, but lets face it, the Prequels were terrible on pretty much every level. I'd be happy if they burned them, and just started over. I always like the idea of the Episode 1 / 2 / 3 backstories, and think there is some really interesting ground to cover / show / explain. Lucas just really messed those up, and pretty much ruined ROTJ too with that stupid muppet song in Jabba's Palace.
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B wrote:Original Trilogy had 3 different directors and no one every complains about that.
What are you talking about? People bitch all the time about RotJ being a muppet movie.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
B wrote:Original Trilogy had 3 different directors and no one every complains about that.
What are you talking about? People bitch all the time about RotJ being a muppet movie.
Is that really a critique of the direction? That's a critique of the screenplay or Lucas' characters.
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Return of the Jedi is awesome. I won't hear anything to the contrary
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well, i enjoy it more than a new hope
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