What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: No Code

[McParadigm]

It's not often that characters that irritating are actually fun to watch.

[Alex]

It's not often that characters that irritating are actually fun to watch.

without having read the bottom-paged object of your commentary here, i'm gonna guess... stip and dimejinky?

[McParadigm]

I don't know why you included stip.

[dimejinky99]

I don't like the pariah bit. It's not my fault I'm usually right.

[Heathen]

hahhaaaklaklklalzelrg

[dimejinky99]

now, see this guy gets it.
The second most sensible thing youve ever said..

[Alex]

I don't know why you included stip.

i figured there was an outside chance that 'stip is interesting, in a way,' would be one of those abstruse mcparadigm conclusions supported by notes in the margins of sketches of medieval castles and reviews of 1911-1917 phonographs

[McParadigm]

I don't know why you included stip.

i figured there was an outside chance that 'stip is interesting, in a way,' would be one of those abstruse mcparadigm conclusions supported by notes in the margins of sketches of medieval castles and reviews of 1911-1917 phonographs

If you're implying that I have a notebook titled "stip," then yes. I have a lot of notebooks, on a lot of different subjects. But that one mostly just looks like a collection of artwork outtakes from Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark.

[Tj]

I Like when Eddie tells a story with a song. This album really lacks the execution of Vitalogy. Eddie trades story telling for manifestos, and I am not sure if it doesn't come across as alternative sensipoo hyperboil. Present Tense is painted into such a wonderful musical landscape. Then Eddie comes in with really bad high school prose. Smile as a idea could have really been a something so much more, and then Eddie punches the time clock. Don't get me wrong there are some really fine moments in even the songs with flaws, and enough solid tracks to keeping coming back to this album. Oh and the Sometimes into Hail,Hail moment is one of my favorite moments in their catalog.

[Brett]

I don't really care much for "Lukin." Other than that, I think they could have gotten even weirder with some aspects of this album.

[dimejinky99]

I don't know why you included stip.

i figured there was an outside chance that 'stip is interesting, in a way,' would be one of those abstruse mcparadigm conclusions supported by notes in the margins of sketches of medieval castles and reviews of 1911-1917 phonographs

If you're implying that I have a notebook titled "stip," then yes. I have a lot of notebooks, on a lot of different subjects. But that one mostly just looks like a collection of artwork outtakes from Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark.

I heard Chud has a similar notebook about me. I'm never going to Boston

[Alex]

I don't know why you included stip.

i figured there was an outside chance that 'stip is interesting, in a way,' would be one of those abstruse mcparadigm conclusions supported by notes in the margins of sketches of medieval castles and reviews of 1911-1917 phonographs

If you're implying that I have a notebook titled "stip," then yes. I have a lot of notebooks, on a lot of different subjects. But that one mostly just looks like a collection of artwork outtakes from Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark.

I heard Chud has a similar notebook about me. I'm never going to Boston

the only notebook chud has is full of contact information for various food delivery joints

[Lament]

I heard Chud has a similar notebook about me. I'm never going to Boston

the only notebook chud has is full of contact information for various food delivery joints

I think Chud is the RMer most likely to carry around a notebook with a My Name is Earl-type list in it.

[samiad]

I love every second of No Code. I've said this before, but the only thing I would change would be getting Eddie to sing "Mankind". PJ without Eddie's voice just ain't the same. Fantastic song though...

This album is NO LIMITS PJ. No rules. It's fun, daring, dark, humorous, perfectly sequenced. Sounds like a band at peace with itself, and without a care in the world for what people think of them. For me, although I do like Yield a lot, Yield is the sound of a band saying "please like us! look - we can still do grunge-type-stuff-with-a-modern-twist"!

I prefer PJ so much more when they don't try to be mass-market. Ten, Vs, Vitalogy, and No Code are all perfect and completely unique, and each is a reaction to the one before it.

To sum up: No Code is my favourite PJ album. Today.

[mac]

I love every second of No Code. I've said this before, but the only thing I would change would be getting Eddie to sing "Mankind". PJ without Eddie's voice just ain't the same. Fantastic song though...

This album is NO LIMITS PJ. No rules. It's fun, daring, dark, humorous, perfectly sequenced. Sounds like a band at peace with itself, and without a care in the world for what people think of them. For me, although I do like Yield a lot, Yield is the sound of a band saying "please like us! look - we can still do grunge-type-stuff-with-a-modern-twist"!

I prefer PJ so much more when they don't try to be mass-market. Ten, Vs, Vitalogy, and No Code are all perfect and completely unique, and each is a reaction to the one before it.

To sum up: No Code is my favourite PJ album. Today.

I fully agree, spot on.

[LoathedVermin72]

Been listening to No Code a lot lately, and, of course, it's one of PJ's finest moments. But I think it has three flaws:

1. "Who You Are" - Not a bad song, but a redundant one. What does this do that "In My Tree" doesn't do better immediately after?

2. "Off He Goes" - What a drag this song is. Totally kills the album's momentum. I can live with a downbeat, acoustic song here and there, but six fucking minutes of it in the middle of such a thrillingly creative, playful, experimental album? No.

3. A nit-picky thing regarding sequencing - "Mankind" should be second to last, right before "Around the Bend".

So this is the new version I've been listening to:

1. Sometimes
2. Hail, Hail
3. Don't Gimme No Lip (I think this helps push the album even further into "playful" territory.)
4. In My Tree
5. Smile
6. Dead Man (More interesting and memorable downbeat ballad than OHG. And two minutes shorter.)
7. Habit
8. Red Mosquito
9. Lukin
10. Present Tense
11. I'm Open
12. Mankind
13. Around the Bend

In other No Code news, I don't how anyone could listen to "In My Tree" and come away thinking anyone other than Jack Irons was PJ's best drummer.

[Kevin Davis]

Apart from having similarly tom-heavy rhythms (which have taken on increasing similarities as Matt has taken over -- when Jack played them they were a lot more distinct), I don't think "Who You Are" and "In My Tree" really share any similarities at all. They don't really even possess a similar emotional register -- one is a relatively happy-sounding, decidedly major-key scale workout; the other is a rumbling, brooding verse set against a breathless, soaring chorus -- I don't think there's any redundancy in including both songs on the record.

[LoathedVermin72]

Apart from having similarly tom-heavy rhythms (which have taken on increasing similarities as Matt has taken over -- when Jack played them they were a lot more distinct), I don't think "Who You Are" and "In My Tree" really share any similarities at all. They don't really even possess a similar emotional register -- one is a relatively happy-sounding, decidedly major-key scale workout; the other is a rumbling, brooding verse set against a breathless, soaring chorus -- I don't think there's any redundancy in including both songs on the record.

Maybe I just focus on weirdly specific things in songs, but when I think of WYA and IMT, I just think of tribal drumming.

[Kaius]

Apart from having similarly tom-heavy rhythms (which have taken on increasing similarities as Matt has taken over -- when Jack played them they were a lot more distinct), I don't think "Who You Are" and "In My Tree" really share any similarities at all. They don't really even possess a similar emotional register -- one is a relatively happy-sounding, decidedly major-key scale workout; the other is a rumbling, brooding verse set against a breathless, soaring chorus -- I don't think there's any redundancy in including both songs on the record.

Maybe I just focus on weirdly specific things in songs, but when I think of WYA and IMT, I just think of tribal drumming.

lol. Oddly enough, I agree with both of your assessments.

[bodysnatcher]

Apart from having similarly tom-heavy rhythms (which have taken on increasing similarities as Matt has taken over -- when Jack played them they were a lot more distinct), I don't think "Who You Are" and "In My Tree" really share any similarities at all. They don't really even possess a similar emotional register -- one is a relatively happy-sounding, decidedly major-key scale workout; the other is a rumbling, brooding verse set against a breathless, soaring chorus -- I don't think there's any redundancy in including both songs on the record.

Maybe I just focus on weirdly specific things in songs, but when I think of WYA and IMT, I just think of tribal drumming.

lol. Oddly enough, I agree with both of your assessments.

Wonder what Jack would have done with WMA in the studio