What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield

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Only in the sense of quiet verse / LOUD CHORUS / quiet verse / LOUD CHORUS / quiet verse / LOUD CHORUS which was basically the hallmark of every memorable "grunge" song of the period unless you completely detest Nirvana for it.
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stip wrote:it was the first song I heard off of Yield and my first thought was 'oh god, eddie lost his voice'. I was so relieved when I heard other songs.
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That's the formula. And it can work fine. But there should be a reason for the switch. What meaningful point is the chorus making? And was it compelling enough in its execution to justify destroying the reflective space the verses created. I can probably come up with a reason, but the execution is clumsy and does the song a disservice
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stip wrote:But there should be a reason for the switch. What meaningful point is the chorus making?
That he has a dog. Dogs are fucking awesome. If you have one you should be pretty fucking psyched. I actually think the chorus should be even louder.

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I just like my dogs to be quiet
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stip wrote:That's the formula. And it can work fine. But there should be a reason for the switch. What meaningful point is the chorus making? And was it compelling enough in its execution to justify destroying the reflective space the verses created. I can probably come up with a reason, but the execution is clumsy and does the song a disservice
Well, I can't really dispute this cause I disagree with the idea that it destroys the reflective space the verses create. Sure, in the moment it gets louder but it's not like getting louder discounts what came before.
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Why can you write a reply, without being logged in, a reply which you then LOSE *after* being asked to login? That's ridiculous.

Anyway, so that's what happened. I actually do think the loud chorus suits the song, semantically. Leaving aside the fact that I think it's a bit much to ask for "meaningful points" in the instrumental parts of rock songs, the verses of Pilate are quite insular and self-refective, while the chorus bursts in with a highly metaphorical, bizarre, funny yet also serious political point about apathy, power and obedience. Probably.
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stip wrote:I just like my dogs to be quiet
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So Pearl Jam. Much Yield. WOW.
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That dog's favorite song is Pilate. And all stip wants to do is complain about it. Why does that dog's joy threaten you, stip?
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That dog pulls The Snowboy's sleigh as a day job.
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Lament wrote:That dog's favorite song is Pilate. And all stip wants to do is complain about it. Why does that dog's joy threaten you, stip?
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stip wrote:
Lament wrote:That dog's favorite song is Pilate. And all stip wants to do is complain about it. Why does that dog's joy threaten you, stip?
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They don't have to work
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Anyone else prefer Pilate to MFC?
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:lol:

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While hardly a flaw , I think the Pilate chorus is a bit overrated
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Lament wrote:Image
HAHAHA. Best PJ meme for a while.
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